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One pinout to fit them all - how can it be this hard?!
Wallace Gasiewicz:
About the confusion about using "English"
I speak "United States"
I find it difficult to speak "Electrical" or "Radio Frequency" (various dialects).
I suggest that we go back in the history of science and learn to all write in Latin.
That will make everyone nuts.
tooki:
--- Quote from: magic on February 11, 2022, 08:12:34 am ---English is what English speakers speak and everybody who speaks English is an English speaker.
I have no trouble understanding the guy. Is your cultural bias holding you down?
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Maybe in your native language, you use “OP” or similar as shorthand for op-amp, allowing you to understand it. Native English speakers absolutely would have no reason to make that connection, as other replies above have shown. I only know it because I also speak German and am learning electronics in German. (English is my native language.)
And I agree with Brumby that native usage carries far more weight than non-native. Non-native speakers don’t get to decide what is and isn’t considered correct!! That’s a liberty I don’t even take with German, and my German is at near-native level. (As in, native speakers routinely tell me they had no idea it’s not my native language.) But I would never have the gall to try and tell them what is and isn’t right in their language!
Brumby, thank you for elaborating on and explaining precisely what my intent was.
magic:
--- Quote from: tooki on February 11, 2022, 06:26:22 pm ---Maybe in your native language, you use “OP” or similar as shorthand for op-amp, allowing you to understand it. Native English speakers absolutely would have no reason to make that connection, as other replies above have shown. I only know it because I also speak German and am learning electronics in German.
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I guess it helps to know what LT1013 is and/or to have any familiarity with PMI or BB and their products :P
(I don't even know what Germans call those things).
Speaking of pedantry, "native" comes from Latin meaning "born". You aren't born with a language, sorry. Everybody learns languages and everybody is equal, obviously.
vk6zgo:
As an Old Fart, it jars every time I see or hear transistors referred to as "trannies".
To us ancient ones, "tranny" means, & always will mean, "transformers!"
Back on topic, I remember in the '80s when everybody making Opto couplers in 6 pin DIP used a common pinout, except for Siemens, who just had to be different.
Opto couplers seldom fail, but these ones did, with the (then) usual month or more lag to get new ones from EU.
Modern bulk freight is excellent for what it is, but waiting for someone to fill an empty container to get a few tiny parts got old pretty fast.
Sony could airfreight things overnight, but it seems, in 1980s Germany, Australia was just too far away, & made the shipping clerks heads hurt!
Cerebus:
--- Quote from: vk6zgo on February 12, 2022, 12:03:13 am ---As an Old Fart, it jars every time I see or hear transistors referred to as "trannies".
To us ancient ones, "tranny" means, & always will mean, "transformers!"
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Or people in dresses with unusually large hands (and sometimes 5 O'clock shadow). Does this mean that a trannie tranny is an NPN dressed up as a PNP? :)
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