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NiHaoMike:
I'm thinking something more like a neon sign transformer, using the UV and ozone as the primary means of sterilization.

blacksheeplogic:

--- Quote from: Blitzschnitzel on March 29, 2020, 08:21:46 pm ---If I have to choose between maybe dyeing from a janky ventilator and definitely dyeing, I am going to choose the janky ventilator.

--- End quote ---

Medical's not one of those fields you can rock up to with your 'device/cure' and expect they take whatever you have cause 'they die anyway'.What you do in your own home that's different, but trialing it on others won't fly.

james_s:

--- Quote from: blacksheeplogic on March 30, 2020, 03:49:20 am ---
--- Quote from: Blitzschnitzel on March 29, 2020, 08:21:46 pm ---If I have to choose between maybe dyeing from a janky ventilator and definitely dyeing, I am going to choose the janky ventilator.

--- End quote ---

Medical's not one of those fields you can rock up to with your 'device/cure' and expect they take whatever you have cause 'they die anyway'.What you do in your own home that's different, but trialing it on others won't fly.

--- End quote ---

Trial it on me then if I found myself in a position of needing one when a proper device is not available. In that position I'd be perfectly willing to kill someone who stood in the way, though physically incapable of doing so at that point. Rules and regulations be damned, turning down any possible available cure for a dying patient is morally reprehensible.

blacksheeplogic:

--- Quote from: james_s on March 30, 2020, 03:58:27 am ---
--- Quote from: blacksheeplogic on March 30, 2020, 03:49:20 am ---
--- Quote from: Blitzschnitzel on March 29, 2020, 08:21:46 pm ---If I have to choose between maybe dyeing from a janky ventilator and definitely dyeing, I am going to choose the janky ventilator.

--- End quote ---

Medical's not one of those fields you can rock up to with your 'device/cure' and expect they take whatever you have cause 'they die anyway'.What you do in your own home that's different, but trialing it on others won't fly.

--- End quote ---

Trial it on me then if I found myself in a position of needing one when a proper device is not available. In that position I'd be perfectly willing to kill someone who stood in the way, though physically incapable of doing so at that point. Rules and regulations be damned, turning down any possible available cure for a dying patient is morally reprehensible.

--- End quote ---

You might be, but your asking someone else to take the responsibility for this decision.

Domagoj T:
And again you bring in this false dichotomy of "DIY or death". The situation is not such that we have only those two options, not nearly.
The situation is such that the governments (in coordination with manufacturers) need to decide when and how to increase the production of tested and proven designs in existing manufacturing facilities. That can be done in matter of days, and in fact has already been done.

This and all others open source ventilator movements (and I've seen several in the last few days) is exactly the same story as with every other open source project - multiple different designs, every one different, not compatible with each other, and not a single one a complete solution. All that is needed is for them to be offered as "some assembly required" and for the ICU nurses to figure out how to compile the firmware through the command line.

But even if you do manage to come up with a decent, cheap and safe design, who is going to make it? The world needs thousands of ventilators per week. You expect to have distributed manufacturing of stuff like this? Everybody pieces something together from odd bits they find laying around their garage and then present their work to the nearest hospital?

There is a problem, but the solution already exists.

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