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Stray Electron:

--- Quote from: coppercone2 on December 28, 2023, 08:31:38 pm ---trump should read red dawn because that what happens when you defund nato

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   IIRC it wasn't NATO that Trump wanted to defund, it was the UN.  (And I completely agree!  The UN has been WORTHLESS in preventing the current wars in both Gaza and the Ukraine. And also utterly useless in stopping the attacks on commercial shipping in the Red Sea.)
HuronKing:

--- Quote from: David Hess on January 08, 2024, 07:22:05 pm ---
--- Quote from: LaserSteve on January 08, 2024, 04:47:06 pm ---Just a rant, I've had people tell me nuclear and atomic bombs are two different things.
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Just refer to them all as "conversion weapons", which is short for "mass-energy conversion weapons".

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Indeed - there are subtle differences in the nomenclature between 'nuclear weapons' and 'atomic weapons.'

Atomic bombs are understood to be fission devices.
Hydrogen bombs are understood to be fusion devices.

Nuclear weapons is a catch-all to refer to both collectively.

The distinction is important because some countries had A-bombs figured out before H-bombs and, as the film Oppenheimer tries to explain, there was controversy over whether the US should or should not have pursued H-bombs after figuring out A-bombs.

It's the ol' logical syllogism. A Frenchman is a European but a European is not necessarily a Frenchman.  :P
Veteran68:

--- Quote from: Stray Electron on January 08, 2024, 07:31:04 pm ---
--- Quote from: coppercone2 on December 28, 2023, 08:31:38 pm ---trump should read red dawn because that what happens when you defund nato

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   IIRC it wasn't NATO that Trump wanted to defund, it was the UN.

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We're venturing dangerously close to partisan politics here, so I'll respond to this in as civil a way as I can before leaving it.

As an isolationist, Trump had contempt for both NATO and the UN. Honestly IMO I'm not sure he understood the difference.

This was presented often in the news during his first term and was discussed heavily in some of the books written by his insiders, especially John Bolton's book. Trump wanted to heavily cut the US contributions to both, and was expected by many to pull the US out of NATO entirely if he were elected to a second term.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/27/politics/trump-nato-contribution-nato/index.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/04/bolton-says-trump-might-have-pulled-us-out-nato-if-he-had-been-reelected/
helius:

--- Quote from: LaserSteve on January 08, 2024, 01:15:08 pm ---Krytrons were always dangled as bait to catch the un-weary.
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What's with the wary/weary confusion that's everywhere all of a sudden? Never used to see it.


--- Quote from: Veteran68 on January 08, 2024, 10:13:04 pm ---As an isolationist, Trump had contempt for both NATO and the UN.
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Note the complete contrast with the current occupant, whose contempt for the institution is such that when he wanted to veto the Security Council resolution called by the Secretary General according to Article 99, he didn't even send his real ambassador.
LaserSteve:
Helius, my. phone has tried in the past 10 seconds to force a name change for you.   I had to override it to type your name.
It wished and desired to change you to Helium or Helios.

I suspect therein lies the answer.
My phone, snd most forum sites, abhors indentation, for example.

Steve


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