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Title: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: MatthewMorgan on April 27, 2016, 07:07:04 am
How about something more deadly than a electrode boiler, how about a DC output Electrolysis water testing.

Like the water boiler but puts rust in the water and also has a slight chance of exploding if you light a flame on it.


Do not buy it if you value your life.


(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NzQzWDc0Mw==/z/axAAAOSwGOxXAOdS/$_12.JPG)
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: MatthewMorgan on April 27, 2016, 07:42:15 am
Please don't send it to Dave. That's my personal POV. There's others who specialise in that sort of thing and they do it more thoroughly.
Well i ordered it yesterday,
And it is marked as dispatched.
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: StuUK on April 27, 2016, 07:50:10 am
Looks completely pointless....
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: RobertoLG on April 27, 2016, 07:55:54 am
Clive allready did a video on this one too

https://youtu.be/ASnLL6ebaco
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: RGB255_0_0 on April 27, 2016, 07:57:11 am
Dave is over exuberant and just spends 5 minutes repeating what was said 5 minutes earlier. Although he did show power factor for those who get charged in VA/VAr.
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: MatthewMorgan on April 27, 2016, 07:57:55 am
Looks completely pointless....
Isint Dave reaction fun?
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: MatthewMorgan on April 27, 2016, 08:04:13 am
Clive allready did a video on this one too

https://youtu.be/ASnLL6ebaco

But nothing beats a Dave rant?
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: StuUK on April 27, 2016, 08:16:17 am
Looks completely pointless....
Isint Dave reaction fun?

Yes, but frankly I prefer vids with educational value rather than entertainment ;) I'm sure most of us can recognise stupid/dangerous products on here... I hope.....
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: RobertoLG on April 27, 2016, 08:26:42 am
something fun from time to time is good, with some moderation, but Dave can do as he wants, my personal opinion only
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: MatthewMorgan on April 27, 2016, 09:18:06 am
Looks completely pointless....
Isint Dave reaction fun?

Yes, but frankly I prefer vids with educational value rather than entertainment ;) I'm sure most of us can recognise stupid/dangerous products on here... I hope.....

Seeing the worst items is educational?
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: SL4P on April 27, 2016, 11:24:58 am
It must be safe, it's got a fuse.
 :-+
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: MatthewMorgan on April 27, 2016, 11:43:09 am
It must be safe, it's got a fuse.
 :-+
10A 250V = 2,500W,
By the time it gets they it could of easily have gone up in flames as the flex is not rated for that they exploded because of the cases from putting DC in water.
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: SeanB on April 27, 2016, 12:30:17 pm
Fuse no good with an unpolarised plug, it could be in the neutral so provides no protection at all.
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: Zbig on April 27, 2016, 12:42:32 pm
I find the recent "trend" of mass-mailing Dave random worthless stuff I couldn't possibly care less about, for mailbag, extremely annoying. I'm already fast forwarding through the obligatory cheap DMM in each segment like I'm doing with commercials. My opinion: it's pointless, boring, not funny at all. Zero entertainment or educational value for me whatsoever. Probably the only way for people to stop flooding Dave with 5$ DMMs and such is for him to start ignoring them (editing-out the fragment after he realizes what it is). Also, what a waste of resources. Someone has to ship the damn thing from China, someone has to deliver it, recycle after Dave throws it in the bin right after or during the recording... what for, what's the point? :-//
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: SL4P on April 27, 2016, 12:43:02 pm
I hope you guys know I was joking...!
 :palm:
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: Stonent on April 27, 2016, 01:09:02 pm
How about sending something useful, like a hole warmer or violet wand?  :-DD
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: MatthewMorgan on April 27, 2016, 01:12:12 pm
I find the recent "trend" of mass-mailing Dave random worthless stuff I couldn't possibly care less about, for mailbag, extremely annoying. I'm already fast forwarding through the obligatory cheap DMM in each segment like I'm doing with commercials. My opinion: it's pointless, boring, not funny at all. Zero entertainment or educational value for me whatsoever. Probably the only way for people to stop flooding Dave with 5$ DMMs and such is for him to start ignoring them (editing-out the fragment after he realizes what it is). Also, what a waste of resources. Someone has to ship the damn thing from China, someone has to deliver it, recycle after Dave throws it in the bin right after or during the recording... what for, what's the point? :-//

High postage cost from UK to Australia.

And you sound a bit shelfish for wanting only things you like on the show?
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: MatthewMorgan on April 27, 2016, 01:14:23 pm
How about sending something useful, like a hole warmer or violet wand?  :-DD
He has already done the hole warmer.
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: Stonent on April 27, 2016, 01:16:41 pm
How about sending something useful, like a hole warmer or violet wand?  :-DD
He has already done the hole warmer.

Dave has?
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: RGB255_0_0 on April 27, 2016, 01:20:32 pm
I find the recent "trend" of mass-mailing Dave random worthless stuff I couldn't possibly care less about, for mailbag, extremely annoying. I'm already fast forwarding through the obligatory cheap DMM in each segment like I'm doing with commercials. My opinion: it's pointless, boring, not funny at all. Zero entertainment or educational value for me whatsoever. Probably the only way for people to stop flooding Dave with 5$ DMMs and such is for him to start ignoring them (editing-out the fragment after he realizes what it is). Also, what a waste of resources. Someone has to ship the damn thing from China, someone has to deliver it, recycle after Dave throws it in the bin right after or during the recording... what for, what's the point? :-//
I'd like him to review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDm5BfRrAsg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDm5BfRrAsg)

Possibly the best sub-$100 DMM?
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: MatthewMorgan on April 27, 2016, 01:22:09 pm
How about sending something useful, like a hole warmer or violet wand?  :-DD
He has already done the hole warmer.

Dave has?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5oQbdgsLtE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5oQbdgsLtE)
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: Stonent on April 27, 2016, 01:23:25 pm
Yeah maybe we could mail Dave post cards reminding him of all the cool stuff he's promised a teardown on instead?
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: meeder on April 27, 2016, 01:33:13 pm
The amount of teardowns is quite low these days. He seems to be very busy with other stuff so it seems.
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: MatthewMorgan on April 27, 2016, 01:59:49 pm
The amount of teardowns is quite low these days. He seems to be very busy with other stuff so it seems.
about £3 to post it from the UK.
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: rdl on April 27, 2016, 03:47:16 pm
I find the recent "trend" of mass-mailing Dave random worthless stuff I couldn't possibly care less about, for mailbag, extremely annoying. I'm already fast forwarding through the obligatory cheap DMM in each segment like I'm doing with commercials. My opinion: it's pointless, boring, not funny at all. Zero entertainment or educational value for me whatsoever.
...

I agree mostly, though I've never really liked most of the mailbag episodes anyway.

If I want to laugh at cheap Chinese crap, I can find plenty myself at very little cost and "free" e-packet delivery. I generally don't do it because of embarrassment at wasting the Post Office's time.

I'd probably like the mailbag segments better if there were more interesting older items and first looks at newer products. Dave, of course, is going to do whatever he wants and whatever more people watch.

I won't even mention the tacky, giant size, bright green tabloid style title text. I promise.
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: MatthewMorgan on April 27, 2016, 04:27:51 pm
I find the recent "trend" of mass-mailing Dave random worthless stuff I couldn't possibly care less about, for mailbag, extremely annoying. I'm already fast forwarding through the obligatory cheap DMM in each segment like I'm doing with commercials. My opinion: it's pointless, boring, not funny at all. Zero entertainment or educational value for me whatsoever.
...

I agree mostly, though I've never really liked most of the mailbag episodes anyway.

If I want to laugh at cheap Chinese crap, I can find plenty myself at very little cost and "free" e-packet delivery. I generally don't do it because of embarrassment at wasting the Post Office's time.

I'd probably like the mailbag segments better if there were more interesting older items and first looks at newer products. Dave, of course, is going to do whatever he wants and whatever more people watch.

I won't even mention the tacky, giant size, bright green tabloid style title text. I promise.
In the UK postal choice are limited internationally useless your sending heavy items at high costs and if you send about £25 sending a heavy item to Dave they is no guarantee he is going to show it aka chinese stuff is alot lower financial risk when you do not have an unlimited budget.
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: Tomorokoshi on April 28, 2016, 12:22:34 am
How much of the discoloration is from material being ablated from the electrodes?
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: alsetalokin4017 on April 28, 2016, 02:15:33 am
The yellow discoloration from using Stainless Steel electrodes is due to chromium compounds, some of which actually contain hexavalent chromium.    :--

http://antique-engines.com/stainless-steel-electrodes.htm (http://antique-engines.com/stainless-steel-electrodes.htm)
http://www.metaldetectingworld.com/anode_positive_electrode_p9.shtml (http://www.metaldetectingworld.com/anode_positive_electrode_p9.shtml)
http://chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/8566/how-can-i-safely-carry-out-an-electrolytic-etch-on-stainless-steel-without-produ (http://chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/8566/how-can-i-safely-carry-out-an-electrolytic-etch-on-stainless-steel-without-produ)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7622548 (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7622548)

Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: Smokey on April 28, 2016, 02:31:05 am
The amount of teardowns is quite low these days. He seems to be very busy with other stuff so it seems.

two... kids....

It's his own fault.  We know why that happens these days.  Doesn't leave much time for the lab.
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: apelly on April 28, 2016, 03:12:34 am
It isn't lost on me that I am probably the only one who'd rather Dave did something else.
No.

I pretty much just watch his stuff out of habit now.  What he has in his favour is very limited competition. Even though and a good portion gets fast forwarded I'll usually watch whatever shows up when I hit refresh. I can't remember the last video that was interesting. The microphone series maybe?

Take apart shit no-one cares about. Do Sagan kindergarten while opening mail. Give me a break. He's lost his mojo. Compare this with Sharirer (sp?) who does meticulous videos with extremely narrow appeal and still gets around 20% of the views.

I wish he'd make something or hack something. The light on the hako was interesting. The not-to-be-spoken-of-u-supply was very interesting. That scope repair 6 months ago was interesting enough.

3 videos a week. 6 hours per video. I've been thinking of giving it a crack myself.

Anyway. Here's 10 minutes of my ideas:

Grab an old iphone 5 whatever it was and get the data off it. Grab an old laptop and hack the charging circuitry for a new super-battery. Make a small switching  supply for something. Hack the fluke DMM data protocol and build an ir>bluetooth adaptor. Hack a microwave with a super cap to drive the clock when the power fails. Make kids shoes that emit noise when they walk and give them to a friends kid. Take a look at IoT security best practice. Make the windscreen wipers on his car go when they sense rain. Hack those beeping, flashing "your meal's ready" things they give you in bistros and bars so you can make them go off whenever you like. (actually I might do that one myself!) Make a quick and dirty home-made "your meat's done" thermometer. Check his fridge efficiency and compare it with a home made pid controller. Make a sensor for his mail box that sends an SMS when the post office put something in there. Remake the classic old FM bug with tiny smd stuff. Modify a cheap FM radio to pick up in-stadium broadcasts. Chat about thermocouples that aren't k-type. Cut the leads on that multimeter he smashed pointlessly and see if they're multi layered insulation. See how the ends are joined. Flex them until they break. Read the firmware off a printer and look at the code that adds the yellow dots. Reverse engineer a smart electricity meter and modify the firmware.

Stop complaining about how pointless/hard/crap/uneconomical everything is and do something just for the fun of it.
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: apelly on April 28, 2016, 06:22:29 am
I hate to be critical but i greatly fear becoming one of those sycophantic enablers who just wash in and out with the tide and tell Dave everything he does is great. Well the tide has a shark in it somewhere. Somebody send Dave a pair of water skis. Will that be deadly enough.
I generally prefer to keep my mouth shut. There aren't many topics I know and care enough about to add to the collective wisdom here.

It's really none of my business what Dave does with his time or what he posts videos about. I can't imagine he gives a shit what I think. I know I wouldn't. I can imagine how many twats he gets asking for/giving the same advice. It'd drive me crazy.

My self justification in this instance was that I tried to at least contribute some inspiration.

Anyway, the forum and community more than make up for my video apathy.

Enough off-topic from me. Sorry to derail another thread.
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: German_EE on April 28, 2016, 08:51:46 pm
The EEV Blog appears to be changing and not in a good way. After you ignore the multimeter destruction, the energy saving wipes and the water heater not much technical content is left over the last month or so. Do you want to count photons or find ET via the Internet? Keep on sending junk to Dave and we're going to get more of the same.

If quantity of content is what you're looking for then Big Clive is your man but be prepared for lots of light bulb teardowns

https://www.youtube.com/user/bigclivedotcom/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/bigclivedotcom/videos)

I'm more interested in quality rather than quantity and the more frequent posters in my You Tube list are as follows:

https://www.youtube.com/user/w2aew/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/w2aew/videos)    W2AEW
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHJpeSrEjtVk1YtRU3FrpQQ/videos (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHJpeSrEjtVk1YtRU3FrpQQ/videos)  The Radio Shop
https://www.youtube.com/user/TRXBench/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/TRXBench/videos)     TRX Bench
https://www.youtube.com/user/MrCarlsonsLab/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/MrCarlsonsLab/videos)     Mr Carlson's Lab
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheSignalPathBlog/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/TheSignalPathBlog/videos)    The Signal Path
https://www.youtube.com/user/trclubricants/videos (https://www.youtube.com/user/trclubricants/videos)  Mike's Radio Repair

I discovered the last one a couple of weeks ago and it's a useful site for those wishing to learn about radio repair. I do however fondly remember the days of Teardown Tuesday and Fundamentals Friday, maybe they'll return.
Title: Re: ordered something even more deadly for the mailbag.
Post by: RGB255_0_0 on April 28, 2016, 08:59:18 pm
Voltlog has had some interesting stuff too. TBH I thought we learned that finding aliens was a waste of energy 13 years ago and people moved almost exclusively to F@H, which seemed a more plausible effort.