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asmi:

--- Quote from: madires on June 10, 2021, 04:22:58 pm ---Counting Microsoft's update disasters the last 12 months many people might disagree with "it just works".

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Have you ever worked on a software that is used on many millions of computers in open ecosystem (meaning you have no control over hardware nor software aside from yours)? Well, as some who has, I can tell you that no matter how much you test, you are going to screw something up for someone somewhere. Windows is running on over a billion PCs worldwide, so no wonder issues crop up every once in a while.

In all my time using Windows, I never had any issues with it that were not self-inflicted. I did have quite a bit of issues with Linux, which I also use for work. I've lost count on how many times what seemed like a simple version update turned into a multi-hour saga of troubleshooting with pulling my hair out.
asmi:

--- Quote from: PKTKS on June 10, 2021, 06:47:56 pm ---Counting how many times Windooozze  locked and trashed
and bugged and failed over the 20+y w/me that sounds hilarious
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:palm: It's funny that Linux is much more widely known for having issues during updates. Especially when it comes to drivers, which stop working all the time due to constantly changing kernel ABI.
As for Windows "locked and trashed", 99,(9)% of those cases are either users doing something stupid (average Windows user is an idiot who barely knows how to turn PC on - there is a reason all tech supports worldwide ask if PC is connected to the outlet, or turned on whenever they receive a call from a customer), or hardware issues resulting from buying random cheap garbage.
PKTKS:

--- Quote from: asmi on June 10, 2021, 09:14:22 pm ---
--- Quote from: PKTKS on June 10, 2021, 06:47:56 pm ---Counting how many times Windooozze  locked and trashed
and bugged and failed over the 20+y w/me that sounds hilarious
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:palm: It's funny that Linux is much more widely known for having issues during updates. Especially when it comes to drivers, which stop working all the time due to constantly changing kernel ABI.
As for Windows "locked and trashed", 99,(9)% of those cases are either users doing something stupid (average Windows user is an idiot who barely knows how to turn PC on - there is a reason all tech supports worldwide ask if PC is connected to the outlet, or turned on whenever they receive a call from a customer), or hardware issues resulting from buying random cheap garbage.

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Well you can't be more wrong about that...

I am using Linux specifically since 90s (was using SCO and HPUX before that)
and since then... I had 0 ZERO issues keeping  rolling setups customized by myself..

ZERO issues in some decades is good in time and effort and money...

As for the garbage.. I **WAS** once upon a time (before 00s at
80s and 90s ) a DOS and WINdoooze  programmer..

It is just a total  insanity - in a system wo sources or crippled sources
and bugged drivers - to try to do SERIOUS INSTRUMENT and HARD stuff

Total insanity I got TOTAL rid off by the end of 90s.

As of these "BRICKS"  they sell today for these 99.99% stupid goonies..

Well  my 6y old nephew is a de facto MSCSE - MerdSoft Crock of Shit Expert ...

He can barely read but he can do everything related with those
cartoon stickers or figurines... by just moving clicking pointing..
install shitty video drivers to play his games..
re-install shit OS by just using the stickers..
everything with a cartoon sticker he can do...

A real crock of shit expert... MSCSE... Now he can read and I am
trying to introduce him a real computer above a BRICK..

Where he is already playing MINECRAFT and BRUTAL DOOM (99.99% time)

He just evolved from that MSCSE...  :popcorn:

And I am doing whatever I can to introduce him to real computers
not stupid goonies bricks..

Hes is already very fine ...  :)
Paul
madires:

--- Quote from: asmi on June 10, 2021, 09:09:03 pm ---Have you ever worked on a software that is used on many millions of computers in open ecosystem (meaning you have no control over hardware nor software aside from yours)? Well, as some who has, I can tell you that no matter how much you test, you are going to screw something up for someone somewhere. Windows is running on over a billion PCs worldwide, so no wonder issues crop up every once in a while.

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I agree with that, but I didn't mean oddball combinations of software or hardware. For example: https://www.tomsguide.com/news/windows-10-may-update-is-officially-a-disaster. I know of several companies which were effected by the printing problems because they have the "wrong" printers, standard office printers from well known vendors. Talk to IT departments and they will tell your their latest horror story about Windows updates.

However, this is going off topic.
PKTKS:

--- Quote from: madires on June 11, 2021, 10:42:07 am ---
--- Quote from: asmi on June 10, 2021, 09:09:03 pm ---Have you ever worked on a software that is used on many millions of computers in open ecosystem (meaning you have no control over hardware nor software aside from yours)? Well, as some who has, I can tell you that no matter how much you test, you are going to screw something up for someone somewhere. Windows is running on over a billion PCs worldwide, so no wonder issues crop up every once in a while.

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I agree with that, but I didn't mean oddball combinations of software or hardware. For example: https://www.tomsguide.com/news/windows-10-may-update-is-officially-a-disaster. I know of several companies which were effected by the printing problems because they have the "wrong" printers, standard office printers from well known vendors. Talk to IT departments and they will tell your their latest horror story about Windows updates.

However, this is going off topic.

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Nah.. not off topic...

Corporate IT  is the closest thing related to the NAZI REICH ...
Absolute mindless terror and lack of sense..

Kinda flow of bad habits or practices and no one questions it

Paul
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