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Red Squirrel:
Yeah you should not just put a plate in there straight after eating off it, at very least clear off the worst of it.  I'm one of those people that pre rinse but it's just faster and gets rid of the worst, and it won't smell while it sits in the machine as I may only run a cycle like once a week.

Though I was thinking it's probably not a bad idea to run a cycle near empty once in a while as the cycle will kind of act as a way to clean the machine itself, if there is any build up within the pipes.   You can buy special tablets for that, not sure if they are worthwhile to use or just a gimmick.   I have a fairly plain jane dishwasher and it's been a bit over 10 years and it's still going strong.
Halcyon:
I have a saying: "dishwashers are not garbage disposals". However the lines are blurred in some countries where dishwashers seem to be built with impellers/blades to churn food.

Either way, if you have one of these machines, it still doesn't hurt to get the solid bits off first (don't be a lazy prick), that and with regular cleaning, it should last for many years.

I have a model that has a fine filter that traps food particles. I clean it about once per week (if not more often). It gets really gross if you leave it. I then run an actual dishwasher cleaner (or a cap-full of trisodium phosphate) while empty once a month to help clear any built up fats and oils in the plumbing.

Dishwasher's aren't magic. The waste doesn't just disappear. For the same reason, you wouldn't throw food or fats/oils straight down the sink. Eventually you, or someone downstream from you will have a major problem.
Jeroen3:

--- Quote from: Alex Eisenhut on December 23, 2020, 07:04:46 am ---...
Why not load the whole door (it is mostly empty, no?) with a big tank of gel-type detergent?

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I want one. I have automatic dosing on my laundry washer and it is perfect. Setup the milliliters based on your water hardness once, and just let it do it's job.
Refill your favorite liquid when it's empty. None of the "juicero" fear bottles people are afraid of.
Some vendor will come around and will start selling pre-wash capsules.
james_s:

--- Quote from: Halcyon on December 28, 2020, 05:30:47 am ---I have a saying: "dishwashers are not garbage disposals". However the lines are blurred in some countries where dishwashers seem to be built with impellers/blades to churn food.

Either way, if you have one of these machines, it still doesn't hurt to get the solid bits off first (don't be a lazy prick), that and with regular cleaning, it should last for many years.

I have a model that has a fine filter that traps food particles. I clean it about once per week (if not more often). It gets really gross if you leave it. I then run an actual dishwasher cleaner (or a cap-full of trisodium phosphate) while empty once a month to help clear any built up fats and oils in the plumbing.

Dishwasher's aren't magic. The waste doesn't just disappear. For the same reason, you wouldn't throw food or fats/oils straight down the sink. Eventually you, or someone downstream from you will have a major problem.

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Why shouldn't they be garbage disposals? Mine has blades that grind up bits of food and dispose of them, it doesn't work as well as the Insinkerator disposal in my kitchen sink, I wouldn't throw a plate in there that still had a bunch of food on it but I don't wash the dishes by hand before I put them in, I have a dishwasher precisely so that I don't have to wash by hand. It works very well, dirty dishes go in and they come out sparkling clean. It's far from the quietest dishwasher I've used but it works as well as any I've tried. Got it for free too when it was brand new, someone bought a house that had a brand new dishwasher and decided they wanted all stainless appliances back when that was all the rage. The dishwasher was white which is my preference anyway so I was happy to haul it away. That was around 12 years ago.

I put almost all of my food scraps straight into the sink, the disposal shreds them up and they end up with the solids in the sewage treatment plant. In a sense they do just go away, they decompose along with all the poop as microorganisms convert it back into nutrient rich soil.
tooki:

--- Quote from: Red Squirrel on December 28, 2020, 01:37:14 am ---Though I was thinking it's probably not a bad idea to run a cycle near empty once in a while as the cycle will kind of act as a way to clean the machine itself, if there is any build up within the pipes.   You can buy special tablets for that, not sure if they are worthwhile to use or just a gimmick.   I have a fairly plain jane dishwasher and it's been a bit over 10 years and it's still going strong.

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They make dishwasher maintenance cleaners specifically for that purpose. On modern dishwashers with heat exchangers, using this is critical to machine longevity.
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