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| helius:
--- Quote from: thm_w on December 29, 2020, 10:53:46 pm ---But anyway I agree, filter system is better. The issue is consumers don't want to perform basic maintenance. So the filter will fully clog after ~12 months and then customer will complain to the manufacturer that their dishwasher stopped working. Instead of with the macerator that clog or self destruct after ~3 years at which point, customer will buy a new dishwasher or pay someone to come clean it out, less calls to the manufacturer. --- End quote --- This entire discussion is mystifying to me. My dishwasher uses a filter, not a "grinder", but it washes the filter off itself using a spray nozzle and it seldom needs to be cleaned. It's older than I am and hasn't required repair in decades. I also have never used "rinse aid" and don't see any reason to do so. You should not pre-rinse your dishes and you should never run the dishwasher empty using detergent. The detergent is alkaline and it will ruin the metal and rubber inside the machine if there is no grease for it to attack. Cleaning the machine itself should be done using a mild acid like vinegar or citric acid. |
| JohnnyMalaria:
--- Quote from: helius on December 30, 2020, 10:04:06 pm ---The detergent is alkaline and it will ruin the metal and rubber inside the machine if there is no grease for it to attack. --- End quote --- That makes no sense. |
| tom66:
Is 'food waste' in the sewer system a problem if a dishwasher has broken down much of that waste via the tablet? I wonder how significant the initial rinse is, because as far as I know that is dumped straight into the drain, before the main hot wash with the tablet. So there could be some benefit to having a small amount of detergent there as it would reduce the risk of clogging up pipes, etc. --- Quote from: JohnnyMalaria on December 30, 2020, 10:32:22 pm --- --- Quote from: helius on December 30, 2020, 10:04:06 pm ---The detergent is alkaline and it will ruin the metal and rubber inside the machine if there is no grease for it to attack. --- End quote --- That makes no sense. --- End quote --- Yes, especially given the machine is usually constructed from a stainless steel tub. If it was of aluminium construction, then there would be a risk, but dishwasher manufacturers aren't stupid and wouldn't build their machines from a material that is attacked by the tablet. Your cutlery doesn't rust away when using a dishwasher tablet, so the machine itself will be fine with the tablet alone. |
| rsjsouza:
--- Quote from: JohnnyMalaria on December 30, 2020, 09:26:09 pm ---FWIW, the first generation of lower volume flush toilets in the US were aptly described by their intended function. i.e., full of sh!t. 2 out of 3 times all the ones where I used to live would not flush my "efforts" away and would block. I had to fill a large saucepan full of hot water (with some soap) and pour it in from a height of about 5 feet TWICE at least to clear the toilet. Since I was on a septic system, I couldn't keep using chemicals. And the shape of the bowl meant that plungers were useless. *This* is a toilet... --- End quote --- Is it just me or this thread is starting to stink? :P ;D :-DD Happy new year everyone! |
| Alex Eisenhut:
Yeah, really, what *do* people use their dishwashers for? Even in my drunkest days I wouldn't have used the dishwasher for that... |
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