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| BravoV:
Mistress ... or even worst, mistresses. >:D |
| tggzzz:
--- Quote from: BravoV on February 07, 2023, 10:49:43 am ---Mistress ... or even worst, mistresses. >:D --- End quote --- Standard aphorism: if it floats, flies or f***s, it is cheaper to rent than buy. Every engineer should have a mistress. Then it is possible to tell the wife they are with the mistress, the mistress they are with the wife, while they go to the lab and have fun in peace. |
| Berni:
--- Quote from: Halcyon on February 07, 2023, 07:36:26 am ---Enterprise gear is usually priced based on specs, features etc... Enterprise networking gear comes to mind. Compare stuff like Cisco or Ubiquiti to consumer offerings and you'll soon realise that the extra cost is worth it. Consumer networking equipment is all gimmick and no substance. Utter garbage (mostly). I just bought a TP-Link VDSL2 modem/router/wireless AP for a mate to replace his failing one and it's pure junk. It actually forces you to download an app and sign up for an account just to configure it. No settings in the web GUI at all (although it actually has a HTTP server and web interface for stats). It literally took me an hour to set up because of that garbage. The app kept throwing me out and I'd have to factory reset and start all over again, for no reason at all. Shit like this seems to be a common theme, not just with TP-Link. --- End quote --- Sometimes enterprise solutions are just the same crap but with a higher price tag because it is an industry standard. While other times enterprise solutions are actually way superior to anything else out there. When it comes to networking it is definitely the latter. Cheep consumer networking gear has cost me way too much grief, up until i decided to spend a bit more money on it with more enterprise-ish Mikrotik stuff. Suddenly there ware 0 issues, to the point when i forget it is even there, it simply never needs to be even looked at as it never breaks. Unfortunately they also tends to come with settings so vast and complicated that you need a doctorate in IT just to open a port, but once you set it up you know you won't have to dick with it ever again, so it is worth it. (Never having to reboot the thing just because you changed a damn setting is also a godsend when setting things up) |
| AndyBeez:
--- Quote from: Halcyon on February 07, 2023, 07:36:26 am ---[...] I just bought a TP-Link VDSL2 modem/router/wireless AP for a mate to replace his failing one and it's pure junk. It actually forces you to download an app and sign up for an account just to configure it. No settings in the web GUI at all (although it actually has a HTTP server and web interface for stats). It literally took me an hour to set up because of that garbage. The app kept throwing me out and I'd have to factory reset and start all over again, for no reason at all. Shit like this seems to be a common theme, not just with TP-Link. --- End quote --- Blame the enterprise environment for the move to 'consumer cloud management'. I understand the necessity for cloud managed systems in pro-enterprise environments where networks are spread across the physical corporate landscape, but in a two bedroom house? I need Cisco Meraki etc to manage VLANs in another timezone, but why do I need an Omada controller with apps to configure three laptops and a rubbish printer on a single [router] default subnet? All this comes from the same script kiddie mindset that added WiFi connectivity to the toilet bowl > "Alexa, flush the toilet for me" Do I need that? If you have both hands full texting, you bet you do! Consent to the download... I will add to the forum's list of overpriced stuff, the subscription model of software distribution. WTF? In olden days you bought the software [on a real disk], and if you were lucky, downloaded updates, patches and feature enhancements for free. Sadly the subscription model is becoming accepted practice. Let us not forget the in-app purchases also required on top of the annual user subscription. From open source software to open wallet software. |
| tom66:
Test equipment may have high gross margins but if you have to run a competitive R&D department to fund it, then someone's got to pay for those salaries. There's always an inflection point. Keysight could sell an DSO4104X for $5k less and probably still make a profit on each unit, but if it only increases sales by 5% then they will struggle to pay the engineers to make the next generation of products. The actual gross profits of these companies are usually not amazing because they have competition from many other manufacturers as well as competition for R&D budgets. And engineers are expensive. Especially the types of engineers who can make oscilloscopes. |
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