Paying A Fine Dave Land Style

[Sionyn]

[Ian.M]

The guy's a dickhead.  See http://banknotes.rba.gov.au/legal/legal-tender/
so Adelaide City council would be entitled to put the coins in their lost property store, and carry on with the parking fine enforcement process.

[lapm]

So he gets fined and takes it out to desk clerk that didn't even write the fine? Well i quess each for their own way...

[SeanB]

Took 5000 coins into the bank a few times, cleaning out the bottle of small coins. As my local branch does know me by sight and name ( and the one deaf teller would have a good conversation with you while working) they generally did not charge any fee either.

Locally stores are rounding down to the nearest 10c as well, as the cost of keeping and counting the small 1c, 2c and 5c coins is pretty high. At one time there was a scrap dealer jailed because he was taking the nickel coins and melting them down for the scrap value, which was 30c for a coin of 5c value.

BTW, your low denomination Euro coins are made in South Africa, and some of the larger denominations as well, along with them being minted in Brazil. ZA R5 coins do fit in a lot of 5 Euro coin mechanisms because the blanks used to strike them are the same, just the dies are different.

[Towger]

5 (10 & 20) euro coins are not in general circulation, countries issue them them to mark special events.
The 2 euro coin is simular to the 10 batt.

[Towger]

The banks here now charge over the face value, if you want bags of small change.

[GreyWoolfe]

Classic case of just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.  That kind of stupidity should not be allowed to be bred forward. 

[Ian.M]

If I was that clerk I would have counted them twice, carefully, and if the counts digagreed, a third time even more carefully, and stacked them neatly.

The obvious intention was to be disruptive.  There was no need to push them over the counter.
The appropriate response is: "We are not required by law, or permitted by council policy to accept payments of over $5 in small change.  Lost and abandoned small change will be donated to charity.", and alert security in case the 'client' becomes abusive or violent.

[Halcyon]

Classic case of just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.  That kind of stupidity should not be allowed to be bred forward.

 

[crispy_tofu]

So he gets fined and takes it out to desk clerk that didn't even write the fine? Well i quess each for their own way...

Exactly. What did they ever do?! 

[nidlaX]

This is a pretty common YouTube stunt nowadays. Some people are just asshats.

[John Coloccia]

When they eventually tow his car for unpaid parking tickets, I wonder what sort of currency he'll try to use to get it back? At least he'll have exact change for the bus.

[EEVblog]

Classic case of just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.

You can't do that under our currency act, it's not legal as the link above points out.

[lowimpedance]

Classic case of just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.

You can't do that under our currency act, it's not legal as the link above points out.

 And since its not legal he will get a new fine to add to the overdue payment of the original ticket,... what a dill.
At least the office workers have a little extra beer money 

[EEVblog]

And since its not legal he will get a new fine to add to the overdue payment of the original ticket,... what a dill.
At least the office workers have a little extra beer money 

He won't get charged for it. The law exists so that people/business/government are not bound to accept such annoying practices.
He's simply thrown his money away, and yep, overdue for the original ticket. What a wally.

[Muttley Snickers]

I saw some hilarious comments on the video, I'm sure he wouldn't like it if his disgruntled boss one week paid him in the same manner.

[EEVblog]

I'm sure he wouldn't like it if his disgruntled boss one week paid him in the same manner.

I can remember when we got paid in cash in a brown envelope.
The secretary would go down to the bank every 2nd Friday (with someone riding shotgun) and pick up all the pay envelops.

[GK]

A Michael Moore protégé.

[EEVblog]

The other mistake people make is to think that shops must accept cash because it's "legal tender". They don't have to unless you owe them a debt. Buying something from a shop is not debt, so it's their right to only accept bananas or bitcoins if that's what they want.

I always wanted to mint my own silver coin with my head on it 
(I've seriously looked into it, just for kicks, or maybe, make a 1000 forum posts and get a 1oz Dave Coin!)

[Halcyon]

"Legal tender" in Australia is clearly defined in legislation and businesses can refuse to accept payment if it's outside these boundaries.

An excerpt from the Reserve Bank of Australia website:

According to the Currency Act 1965 (section 16) coins are legal tender for payment of amounts which are limited as follows:
not exceeding 20c if 1c and/or 2c coins are offered (these coins have been withdrawn from circulation, but are still legal tender);
not exceeding $5 if any combination of 5c, 10c, 20c and 50c coins are offered; and
not exceeding 10 times the face value of the coin if $1 or $2 coins are offered.

For example, if someone wants to pay a merchant with five cent coins, they can only pay up to $5 worth of five cent coins and any more than that will not be considered legal tender.



(Source: http://banknotes.rba.gov.au/legal/legal-tender/)

[miguelvp]

So for $120 he will have to do 24 payments of $5, that is if they allow partial payments.

Actually if I was the clerk I would have start to slowly count the money at a very very slow pace, then loose my count, because the idiot would of course interrupt, and start again. Maybe repeating that as long as it took for the idiot to give up, and if he finally stayed quiet, I would slow down even more.

[GK]

. Buying something from a shop is not debt,

Unless you've eaten the chips before making it to the counter.

[EEVblog]

"Legal tender" in Australia is clearly defined in legislation and businesses can refuse to accept payment if it's outside these boundaries.

Yes, but also they don't have accept any "legal tender" at all. Businesses have the freedom to accept any form of currency they want unless it's an actual debt.

[mrpackethead]

I want to pay  in broken oscilloscopes and special fuses that can let more power through.

[FrankBuss]

Modify: there are countermeasures I believe, at least in US. Last time I went to Wells Fargo to deposit my full (small) bin of coins, and they didn't count that for me. Instead, they gave me a coin tray and some wrapping paper, and I have to do counting and packaging myself.

Some banks here have ATMs with coin counters: