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Offline sony mavicaTopic starter

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pc psu
« on: March 30, 2017, 11:20:00 pm »
can somebody please help me would this power supply work in my computer
https://www.pbtech.co.nz/product/PSUFSP65941/FSP-400W-60HCN-ATX-12V-Desktop-OEM-PSU-No-Power-Ca

one in my computer now is

https://www.cnet.com/products/fsp-eps-12v-fsp600-80glc-power-supply-600-watt/specs/

don't really want to spend much on a psu for this computer as im going to be saving up for a new pc
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Re: pc psu
« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2017, 11:26:43 pm »
Without knowing what's inside your PC there's no way of knowing how much power it may need.
If you are running a grand total of 600watts with your CPU, GFX card(s), fans, hard drives, etc then the 400 watt PSU will not be sufficient.
If your grand total is below 350 (wriggle room so you aren't stressing it at max output) then the 400 may be enough - assuming the 5V and 12V rails are sufficient for their requirements.

Do the maths:  http://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/
« Last Edit: March 30, 2017, 11:35:48 pm by Avacee »
 

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Re: pc psu
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2017, 11:41:50 pm »
Bad news.

Your old psu was 600 watts and had two power cables that plug into the motherboard to power the cpu.

Your new psu is 400 watts, loss of 200 watts.  And there is no mention of what power cables are available.

For example.  My Core 2 cpu (E6600, E8200, Q6600) require a 24 pin main motherboard power and also require an additional separate 4 pin power connector that also plugs into motherboard.   

Conclusion.  Either the website where you shop is crap.  PSU is crap.  Or both are crap.

One more thing.  My rule of thumb is to always buy psu that is 500 watts or more.
 

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Re: pc psu
« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2017, 11:59:10 pm »
Dont buy crappy no name ATX PSU's...
Get a Seasonic S12 or an EVGA or a Corsair or something that is decent, unless you are running an i7-6950x plus SLI Titan X's you wont need more than 450Watts of DECENT power supply.
 

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Re: pc psu
« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2017, 12:05:54 am »
computers running i7 2600k
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Re: pc psu
« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2017, 12:08:44 am »
computers running i7 2600k
And is it running at stock speed, or overclocked? (The K editions have an open multiplier, and are especially made for OCing)
Also, are you using the CPU's built-in graphics, or a 3rd party graphics card? And if so, which one exactly?
 

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Re: pc psu
« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2017, 12:10:21 am »
computers running i7 2600k
And is it running at stock speed, or overclocked? (The K editions have an open multiplier, and are especially made for OCing)
Also, are you using the CPU's built-in graphics, or a 3rd party graphics card? And if so, which one exactly?
The K edition does not have  built in graphics.  That is why it has K designation in the first place.
 

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Re: pc psu
« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2017, 12:14:07 am »
computers running i7 2600k
And is it running at stock speed, or overclocked? (The K editions have an open multiplier, and are especially made for OCing)
Also, are you using the CPU's built-in graphics, or a 3rd party graphics card? And if so, which one exactly?
The K edition does not have  built in graphics.  That is why it has K designation in the first place.
That is incorrect:
http://ark.intel.com/products/52214/Intel-Core-i7-2600K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_80-GHz
It has a K in it due to the reason I've already specified. I'm very well versed in computer hardware, and I know what I'm talking about.
 

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Re: pc psu
« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2017, 12:35:45 am »
So thats 95Watts IF/WHEN you stress test the CPU, with some OC, bump it to 110-130Watts, account 20Watts for the mobo/RAM, 8Watts for each HDD/SDD, with 4 HDD's/SSD's you end up with a stress test consumption of 147Watts at stock and around 180Watts with some OC.
With a decent PSU with 450Watts that still leaves you 450-180 = 270Watts, enought juice for any GPU known to man..

Seasonic in Europe are the "cheapest" name brand decent PSU's 450Watts will cost you around 50€, if you want over 300Watts of headroom grab the 520Watts edition for 60-70€, just dont use crappy PSU that cant output half of their rated power before exploding or the rails saging 1v and then complain that your computer is unstable and BSOD's everytime you open word.
 

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Re: pc psu
« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2017, 12:44:32 am »
computers running i7 2600k
And is it running at stock speed, or overclocked? (The K editions have an open multiplier, and are especially made for OCing)
Also, are you using the CPU's built-in graphics, or a 3rd party graphics card? And if so, which one exactly?

video card is gefore gts 450
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Re: pc psu
« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2017, 12:54:04 am »
 Well that may bump it up a bit. I think my power supply wrote me a personal thank you when I replaced my GTX480 with a 970. But around 500 watts should be plenty. Stick with a quality name like Seasonic.

 

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Re: pc psu
« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2017, 01:06:29 am »
computers running i7 2600k
And is it running at stock speed, or overclocked? (The K editions have an open multiplier, and are especially made for OCing)
Also, are you using the CPU's built-in graphics, or a 3rd party graphics card? And if so, which one exactly?

video card is gefore gts 450
Then the PSU you've asked about would be fine. however, I'd recommend you spend a bit more, and get this one instead:
https://www.elive.co.nz/fsp-hyper-500w-atx-power-supply.php
Better specs, efficiency, and significantly longer warranty (5 years vs 1!)

Stick with a quality name like Seasonic.
FSP is a quality PSU brand FYI.
It may not be the most popular one, but definitely a good brand.
 

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Re: pc psu
« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2017, 01:42:12 am »
Went searching, OK, its not a bottom of the barrel PSU:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FSP_Group

But it was used and is used in OEM's, and I've seen a pile of FSP branded PSU's, thats why I'm a bit leery, those where core2duo era PSU's, maybe affected by the capacitor plague of those times?
 

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Re: pc psu
« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2017, 02:17:23 am »
computers running i7 2600k
And is it running at stock speed, or overclocked? (The K editions have an open multiplier, and are especially made for OCing)
Also, are you using the CPU's built-in graphics, or a 3rd party graphics card? And if so, which one exactly?

video card is gefore gts 450
Then the PSU you've asked about would be fine. however, I'd recommend you spend a bit more, and get this one instead:
https://www.elive.co.nz/fsp-hyper-500w-atx-power-supply.php
Better specs, efficiency, and significantly longer warranty (5 years vs 1!)

Stick with a quality name like Seasonic.
FSP is a quality PSU brand FYI.
It may not be the most popular one, but definitely a good brand.

thanks i will have a look at getting that psu hope i can find it cheaper
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Re: pc psu
« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2017, 03:47:54 am »
just saw i have $20 on my mightyape account so i would be able to buy this right now any good

https://www.mightyape.co.nz/product/500w-fsp-hexa-atx-psu/24458023
« Last Edit: March 31, 2017, 03:56:30 am by sony mavica »
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Re: pc psu
« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2017, 12:05:54 pm »
just saw i have $20 on my mightyape account so i would be able to buy this right now any good

https://www.mightyape.co.nz/product/500w-fsp-hexa-atx-psu/24458023
Yeah, it'd be fine.
 

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Re: pc psu
« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2017, 01:05:08 pm »
I got two or three Super Flower 80+ Gold PSUs. They were less expensive than equivalent be quiet or Enermax PSUs, got proper caps, and run just fine.
 

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Re: pc psu
« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2017, 05:08:08 pm »
I've observed a lot of wattage inflation in PCs over the past 10 years or so. I've measured my core i7 desktop and it peaks at under 200W from the wall and idles around 120W. When I built it I had a hard time even finding a power supply under 500W.
 

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« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2017, 05:30:48 pm »
Because every OEM pc as a crappy PSU, so Nvidia and AMD started to recommend things like 500-600Watts PSU's for their graphics cards to kinda be sure that the no name low quality PSU's wont explode at the first power on.
Then everybody thinks that the GPU alone uses those recommended 500-600Watts and they add the cpu TDP on that, and you end up with the stupidness of 1500Watts PSU's in systems that use 600Watts or less full stress test.

That or they all knew that in the future pc cases would be more akin to discos with 1kW of leds in them..
 

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Re: pc psu
« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2017, 06:58:24 pm »
Gamers don't understand computer hardware, they just know bigger numbers are better. That really explains most of it.

I got mass downvoted on reddit for saying you should probably use at least a little bit of ESD protection when handling RAM, as it's one of the more sensitive components (And also one of the highest "Out of the box" failure rates, which gamers assure me is pure coincidence)
 

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« Reply #20 on: March 31, 2017, 07:09:44 pm »
I believe it. I've personally killed a stick of RAM at least once due to careless handling that resulted in a small static discharge. RAM is also the only computer part I have ever had that was faulty right out of the box even with proper handling.
 

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Re: pc psu
« Reply #21 on: March 31, 2017, 09:48:52 pm »
I got two or three Super Flower 80+ Gold PSUs. They were less expensive than equivalent be quiet or Enermax PSUs, got proper caps, and run just fine.

thanks can any more people confirm if will work?
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Re: pc psu
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2017, 02:09:08 am »
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Re: pc psu
« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2017, 02:44:20 am »
computers running i7 2600k
And is it running at stock speed, or overclocked? (The K editions have an open multiplier, and are especially made for OCing)
Also, are you using the CPU's built-in graphics, or a 3rd party graphics card? And if so, which one exactly?

video card is gefore gts 450
Then the PSU you've asked about would be fine. however, I'd recommend you spend a bit more, and get this one instead:
https://www.elive.co.nz/fsp-hyper-500w-atx-power-supply.php
Better specs, efficiency, and significantly longer warranty (5 years vs 1!)

Stick with a quality name like Seasonic.
FSP is a quality PSU brand FYI.
It may not be the most popular one, but definitely a good brand.

Didn't he say he just needs something cheap because hes upgrading the whole  thing soon?
I'm legally blind so sometimes I ask obvious questions, but its because I can't see well.
 
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Re: pc psu
« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2017, 04:34:52 am »
computers running i7 2600k
And is it running at stock speed, or overclocked? (The K editions have an open multiplier, and are especially made for OCing)
Also, are you using the CPU's built-in graphics, or a 3rd party graphics card? And if so, which one exactly?

video card is gefore gts 450
Then the PSU you've asked about would be fine. however, I'd recommend you spend a bit more, and get this one instead:
https://www.elive.co.nz/fsp-hyper-500w-atx-power-supply.php
Better specs, efficiency, and significantly longer warranty (5 years vs 1!)

Stick with a quality name like Seasonic.
FSP is a quality PSU brand FYI.
It may not be the most popular one, but definitely a good brand.

Didn't he say he just needs something cheap because hes upgrading the whole  thing soon?

yeah im upgrading in a couple of months or somewhere around maybe start of next year just need this computer for work really and some video editing so just wanting something cheap for the time

i want to make 100% sure this power supply will be fine before i buy it https://www.mightyape.co.nz/product/500w-fsp-hexa-atx-psu/24458023
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