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Philips vs Mullard Vintage Radios??
« on: June 11, 2020, 02:58:48 pm »
My LATEST acquisition (just received in the post!)  is an Aussie Philips Model 124...
This is a (large & heavy!) BroadBand, plus S.W. receiver, plus Magnified S.W. bands.....

However, this doesn't just 'LOOK' like the "Mullard Eleven-Eleven", as shown here.....

But internally, it is EXACTLY the same! With the exact same Schematic, and data.
Obviously, there was a lot of agreements between so-called 'Companies', much like today!   :P
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Re: Philips vs Mullard Vintage Radios??
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2020, 05:19:25 pm »
For many years, Philips couldn’t use its name in USA because of the similarity to Philco. So in USA, Philips products were sold under various other names: Magnavox, Norelco, and probably a few more.

In the case of Mullard, originally a British company, Philips partnered with them in 1923 and then completely bought them in 1927, but continued to use the name until 1988. It wouldn’t surprise me if the same radio was sold in USA under a third name.
 
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Re: Philips vs Mullard Vintage Radios??
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2020, 05:35:53 pm »
+1 to tooki.

Mullard was the brand name for Philips in the UK for a long time.
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Re: Philips vs Mullard Vintage Radios??
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2020, 06:52:30 pm »
GlennSprigg:

Very nice catch! I am jealous.

Hopefully, even if you do not make a full teardown, at least you can take some nice photos of the unit's inside.
 
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Re: Philips vs Mullard Vintage Radios??
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2020, 11:21:16 pm »
I'm very jealous of your acquisitions but more even so that the mail in your region actually delivers them intact.
 
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Re: Philips vs Mullard Vintage Radios??
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2020, 12:22:16 am »
My brother who worked for Philips (so did I for a short while) says their logo of

2 stars
Wavy lines
A circle

Stood for double crosses and shaky deals all around the world.

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Re: Philips vs Mullard Vintage Radios??
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2020, 12:34:15 am »
Philips was awesome back in the days the design, reliability, and innovation.

What I love about Phillips in 1970s is motion feedback on active 3 way speakers. With original schemetics <3 I would love it if they still build these speakers. I have so much Philips Hi-Fi stuff around here. Just lovely, MFBs so small and great audio. Refurbished 2 complete sets a month or two ago. Perfectly factory calibrated again.

Back in the days there was a spec that was required and they fully made it happen. I see these speakers I compared almost 50 year old capacitors with fresh new ones from Vishay. Almost no difference in audio quality hearable. Quality back then was really good i guess..

Philips 22RH544 second gen
Philips 22RH541 first gen

@OP nice acquisition. I also have a tube Philips table radio B4X23A/74, lovely stuff. Original untouched good stuff low hours.
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Re: Philips vs Mullard Vintage Radios??
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2020, 06:40:58 pm »
For many years, Philips couldn’t use its name in USA because of the similarity to Philco. So in USA, Philips products were sold under various other names: Magnavox, Norelco, and probably a few more.

In the case of Mullard, originally a British company, Philips partnered with them in 1923 and then completely bought them in 1927, but continued to use the name until 1988. It wouldn’t surprise me if the same radio was sold in USA under a third name.

To this day, there's still a Norelco Drive in Toronto but Philips office in the area is on the other side of the city now.  Ironically, LG Electronics' offices are located on Norelco Dr.
 
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Re: Philips vs Mullard Vintage Radios??
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2020, 10:34:23 am »
GlennSprigg:

Very nice catch! I am jealous.

Hopefully, even if you do not make a full teardown, at least you can take some nice photos of the unit's inside.

To pardo-bsso also...  yes, it seems to be quite rare!  :)
I 'won' it in an EBAY bid, for $88 Australian. ($60 U.S. Local delivery). It has never been worked on, and is
in pristine condition, inside & out!!  There is not much to do to it, except the ubiquitous old Caps, and minor cosmetics
to the outer case. However, I WILL show more photos shortly!!  Thanks for your interest!   :D
Diagonal of 1x1 square = Root-2. Ok.
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Re: Philips vs Mullard Vintage Radios??
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2020, 10:48:26 am »
For many years, Philips couldn’t use its name in USA because of the similarity to Philco. So in USA, Philips products were sold under various other names: Magnavox, Norelco, and probably a few more.

In the case of Mullard, originally a British company, Philips partnered with them in 1923 and then completely bought them in 1927, but continued to use the name until 1988. It wouldn’t surprise me if the same radio was sold in USA under a third name.

Thank you, and to all others, discussing the Brand Name etc.!   :D
I sometimes 'bitch' (due to jealousy!), about not just Australia, but more remote locations. (I'm in Bunbury,
about 200 kms Sth of Perth, Western Aust). Unlike our 'Eastern' states, we don't have anything like the
proliferation of 'Meets' & 'Swaps' that people have in the U.S.A. And I'm a relative 'new-comer' here, so I
don't have lots of tech 'contacts' yet.  I can UNDERSTAND such variations in Companies, as was quoted!    :phew:
Diagonal of 1x1 square = Root-2. Ok.
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Re: Philips vs Mullard Vintage Radios??
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2020, 11:09:09 am »
For many years, Philips couldn’t use its name in USA because of the similarity to Philco. So in USA, Philips products were sold under various other names: Magnavox, Norelco, and probably a few more.

In the case of Mullard, originally a British company, Philips partnered with them in 1923 and then completely bought them in 1927, but continued to use the name until 1988. It wouldn’t surprise me if the same radio was sold in USA under a third name.

Re: Other names, as per the bold word in your quote, above...
'Magnavox' (was?) an Aussie name?  I've also recently acquired an old Speaker, on the label, it says...
" Magnavox, Model 'MAGNAFLUX  525S2' ".  Strangely, (or not!  :( ), I can NOT find any Ref to it, or anything
like it, on the whole Net??  Maybe it is as rare as the 'seller' said! hahaha....
Diagonal of 1x1 square = Root-2. Ok.
Diagonal of 1x1x1 cube = Root-3 !!!  Beautiful !!
 


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