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james_s:

--- Quote from: bd139 on September 23, 2021, 09:22:30 pm ---Where do you want me to send the consultancy invoice?  :-DD

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You're the one trying to sell me on an alternate platform(s), that's up to you. I'm content to just keep buying RPis, they're cheap, easy to get, and I already know they will work for me. If I can get something that is comparable but cheaper, or approximately the same price with some tangible improvement like lower power consumption, smaller size or more features I'm open to ideas.

Wolfgang:

--- Quote from: bd139 on September 23, 2021, 06:40:31 pm ---I've stated my reasons clearly. I don't think I need to go over them again. Your argument with support is flawed because they delete the negative scenarios.

But you're still missing the point.

Start with the application requirements and work back to the device.

Not start with the specification which doesn't matter initially when you start a project of any kind. I don't give a bananas what the Pi does on paper, only if it fits the requirements for the project compared to other devices.

Hell the last embedded thing I worked on an AVR was sufficient and the AVR-gcc toolchain is a lot less of a pain in the ass than even bootstrapping an STM32. But I've seen someone ram a raspberry pi in the same requirements hole and run 8 lines of python on it at the cost of a 100x fold in complexity and power requirements :-//

It's popular because it's cheap. It's not. The cost comes later.

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I think that the approach "Now I got a new toy, what can I do with it" is common in prototyping and experimentation. For "serious" product design, its normally not a good idea. You start from what you need.

For a lot of use cases, the Raspi offers a lot more than the problem needs. Controlling your garage door with a multiuser, multitasking operating system is not only silly, but also less reliable than a more primitive but adequate solution. With the Raspis, the problem is always to switch off the thousend features you *dont* want and that could possibly interfere with your real world problem (SD card wear, restart problems, timing issues, ...). When an Arduino is prefect for the job, I would always prefer this to an OS based machine.

On the other hand, when the problem to be solved involves user interfaces, graphics, multitasking, ... an Raspi is certainly an option. Only one thing: Never try this for high-reliability apps. For cheap fun gear or prototypes - no problem. But keep it out of avionics, space, mil, power stations, autonomous driving and medicine.

For making a product, a clear perspective of hardware availability and supply is also important. What you would want is fully documented (preferable open source)hardware that is supported for foreseeable periods and that has a
supplier that never runs out of stock. For certain Raspis, this never came true.


PlainName:

--- Quote ---There's a metric shit ton of them NOS
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There are a lot of second hand ones on Ebay, of varying spec. That's quite a bit different to brand new with a known price and a specific spec to order.

EEVblog:

--- Quote from: eti on September 23, 2021, 03:16:32 am ---
--- Quote from: AntiProtonBoy on September 23, 2021, 03:02:01 am ---I hope they succeed. The more consumer facing Linux centric hardware there is, the better.

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They’re fools. They need to hand the reigns over to someone competent, or just dump the whole thing.

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Why do you care? They are meeting a market niche and succeeding at it.

EEVblog:

--- Quote from: bd139 on September 23, 2021, 04:01:29 pm ---Really the Pi sits in a grey area between embedded and proper computers. It’s better to push the problem to either side than take on the compromises it forces upon you.

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Who is being "forced"?
There are countless companies and SBC's that are more professional, more open, cheaper, *insert your requirement here*. Always has been, always will be, why the hate for them to exist in their niche?

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