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eti:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on September 24, 2021, 03:52:57 am ---
--- Quote from: bd139 on September 23, 2021, 04:01:29 pm ---Really the Pi sits in a grey area between embedded and proper computers. It’s better to push the problem to either side than take on the compromises it forces upon you.

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Who is being "forced"?
There are countless companies and SBC's that are more professional, more open, cheaper, *insert your requirement here*. Always has been, always will be, why the hate for them to exist in their niche?

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Because they are APPALLING in attitude, and when you weigh that up with the fact that they sell TOYS, it comes across as a bad taste. One does not simply and foolishly IGNORE the spirit of a company, merely because they hold what one desires - supporting a company with a crappy attitude is a bad move - one cannot simply whitewash over it.

eti:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on September 24, 2021, 03:48:38 am ---
--- Quote from: eti on September 23, 2021, 03:16:32 am ---
--- Quote from: AntiProtonBoy on September 23, 2021, 03:02:01 am ---I hope they succeed. The more consumer facing Linux centric hardware there is, the better.

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They’re fools. They need to hand the reigns over to someone competent, or just dump the whole thing.

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Why do you care? They are meeting a market niche and succeeding at it.

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I was sent a Pi 400 review unit, and has SUCH a terrible time with moronic, hyper-sensitive "moderators" at their childish forum, I unplugged the piece of junk and just wanna snap it over my knee and bin it, seriously, what schmucks. They're as good at moderating and accepting critcism as they are at designing hardware. They are a sham front for Broadcom.

Wolfgang:

--- Quote from: eti on September 24, 2021, 04:09:37 am ---
--- Quote from: EEVblog on September 24, 2021, 03:48:38 am ---
--- Quote from: eti on September 23, 2021, 03:16:32 am ---
--- Quote from: AntiProtonBoy on September 23, 2021, 03:02:01 am ---I hope they succeed. The more consumer facing Linux centric hardware there is, the better.

--- End quote ---
They’re fools. They need to hand the reigns over to someone competent, or just dump the whole thing.

--- End quote ---

Why do you care? They are meeting a market niche and succeeding at it.

--- End quote ---

I was sent a Pi 400 review unit, and has SUCH a terrible time with moronic, hyper-sensitive "moderators" at their childish forum, I unplugged the piece of junk and just wanna snap it over my knee and bin it, seriously, what schmucks. They're as good at moderating and accepting critcism as they are at designing hardware. They are a sham front for Broadcom.

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The lesson is to stay away from "fanboys" of any kind. Another good example was the Microchip vs Atmel wars (before Microchip bought them up, now its quiet).

What I try to do is choose components base on how useful they are for my purposes. Any extra emotion is  a waste.
If some people start a religious attitude about their brand, product, philosophy, ... whatever, let them. Its just a marketing issue.

If Raspi creates fun and gets out some people from computer illiteracy, let them. You can still use other parts for serious purposes.

Just_another_Dave:

--- Quote from: Wolfgang on September 24, 2021, 09:22:37 am ---
--- Quote from: eti on September 24, 2021, 04:09:37 am ---
--- Quote from: EEVblog on September 24, 2021, 03:48:38 am ---
--- Quote from: eti on September 23, 2021, 03:16:32 am ---
--- Quote from: AntiProtonBoy on September 23, 2021, 03:02:01 am ---I hope they succeed. The more consumer facing Linux centric hardware there is, the better.

--- End quote ---
They’re fools. They need to hand the reigns over to someone competent, or just dump the whole thing.

--- End quote ---

Why do you care? They are meeting a market niche and succeeding at it.

--- End quote ---

I was sent a Pi 400 review unit, and has SUCH a terrible time with moronic, hyper-sensitive "moderators" at their childish forum, I unplugged the piece of junk and just wanna snap it over my knee and bin it, seriously, what schmucks. They're as good at moderating and accepting critcism as they are at designing hardware. They are a sham front for Broadcom.

--- End quote ---

The lesson is to stay away from "fanboys" of any kind. Another good example was the Microchip vs Atmel wars (before Microchip bought them up, now its quiet).

What I try to do is choose components base on how useful they are for my purposes. Any extra emotion is  a waste.
If some people start a religious attitude about their brand, product, philosophy, ... whatever, let them. Its just a marketing issue.

If Raspi creates fun and gets out some people from computer illiteracy, let them. You can still use other parts for serious purposes.

--- End quote ---

In my experience, old raspberries might be useful while testing PCBs that need to be connected to a pc, especially if you didn’t design them. I prefer burning an USB port of a cheap second handed raspi (or any other cheap pc) than the one of my workstation. Additionally, being small is a great advantage for placing it near the prototypes

bingo600:
One thing that i'm happy with, after the RasPI was released , is pricing. ... And power usage for a little linux running

I remember the "Small" Linux dev-board prices before the RasPI ... Was easily $250+.

That has changed, and many more has begun to develop in that area,
Ie. Odroid and OrangePi, that i also like a lot.

I bought 20 x Raspi3 for £250 , and have a few in use ... A good deal from this forum ...  :-+

I have had a Raspi3 in prod. as a backup DNS & DHCP server for 5 years , and it was just last rear i had to change the SD card (after a power failure).
So if you're not buying cheap SD cards, i'd say they are well behaved.
I ONLY use SanDisk Ultra or Extreme.


While i'm not impressed with some of the "Foundation" mgmt decisions or statements.
They have IMHO changed the world.

/Bingo


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