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| AntiProtonBoy:
--- Quote from: bd139 on September 23, 2021, 04:27:53 pm ---Got to be honest here this is a stupid comment. There are literally skip fulls of consumer centric Linux hardware everywhere. Every damn computer shop is full of it. Gumtree, ebay, garages eveywhere. Computers are ubiquitous junk these days and Linux mostly works on all them them 100% better than it does on some low ball POS ARM board. If they cared about access to computing they would be selling recycled guaranteed PCs with an easy to use Linux distribution. No they are selling BCM SoCs stuffed on the lowest part count board they could get away with and Liz is drinking a lot of wine. --- End quote --- Righto, but how often do you see "linux running on junk" promoted in the mainstream media? Never. The detail you actually miss here is marketing and exposure. If you care about promoting alternative an OS for people to experiment with (like I do), offering a shiny, compact product like a Pi is infinitely more appealing than getting people to bin dive for a filthy beige PC, and then convince them spending countless of frustrating hours trying to find and install a suitable distro on an obsolete system with a buggy BIOS. I'm 100% on board with any scheme that encourages people off proprietary operating systems and onto open source platforms and hardware. And if there is a profitable way to do that for a company THAT'S EVEN BETTER! System founded on open source principles and actually makes money... think about it... it's literally the best of both worlds. --- Quote ---low ball POS ARM board --- End quote --- Absolute nonsense. It's an awesome low power device. I use a single Pi as a server, which runs Docker with containers such as Apache, PiHole, Deluge + WireGuard, Samba, Grafana, Prometheus, etc. It doesn't even break a sweat, and is great for saving on electricity because of its awesome performance/watt characteristics. |
| EEVblog:
--- Quote from: Doctorandus_P on September 25, 2021, 02:58:13 pm ---I have never bought, and will not buy a raspi. I dislike their marketing hype and lack of openness and their broadcom connections, which is a company very hostile to hobbyists and tinkerers. --- End quote --- Are people forgetting that the RPi was designed for the educational market by a charity organisation? It was never meant to be an industrial or hobbyist SBC. |
| SiliconWizard:
--- Quote from: Wolfgang on September 26, 2021, 06:27:19 pm --- --- Quote from: SiliconWizard on September 26, 2021, 05:55:33 pm --- --- Quote from: Bud on September 25, 2021, 03:18:17 pm ---I agree with others's opinion that Pi was/is a solution looking for a problem. --- End quote --- Maybe, or maybe not. But comparing RPi with other vendors makings SBCs - sure there are some that are objectively "better" than the RPi. Very few are better documented though - not that the RPi itself is well documented, but most others are not better in that regard. But anyway, they just all followed RPi. Before RPi, there just wasn't any small and cheap SBC. Small SBCs were mostly industrial stuff, pretty expensive and absolutely not hobbyist-friendly. So they at least created a market here. Following is always easier than creating a new market. --- End quote --- Its always the same misunderstanding: Mistake a fun and educational tool for a stable industrial solution. --- End quote --- Who said such a thing? |
| djacobow:
--- Quote from: bd139 on September 23, 2021, 04:01:29 pm ---I started a technical thread on their forum regarding the power issues and SD reliability issues early on in their product cycle. I kept it nice suggesting fixes. This was met with denial and questioning my credentials. I suggested that I would not use their products in future because of these problems. After a couple of days all my posts were deleted and my account on the forum deleted. I continue not to use these products because they are denialists and censor criticism and technical issues. I have seen several people reporting this. That’s reason enough to be bitter and explicitly warn people away from their products. I have other reasons as well related to the relationship between Cambridge university, the raspberry pi foundation and Broadcom as well which is a corrupt little circle of hell. (Have also had to deal with BCM professionally before). There is a lot of preferential treatment and cronyism in the group. First and second hand experience there for ref. Also it’s STB junk. I need reliable storage for any computers and SD cards or USB mass storage is not it. Minimum SATA or NVMe. --- End quote --- I've used various RPi's since the beginning in all manner of projects, and I even sell some RPi "shields". I generally like the platform for anything with network + io twiddling, but bd139 is absolutely right about storage and reliability. The platform has been just atrocious for eating sdcards. For personal use, that alone has driven me off the platform. |
| AntiProtonBoy:
--- Quote from: djacobow on September 27, 2021, 01:20:47 am --- bd139 is absolutely right about storage and reliability. The platform has been just atrocious for eating sdcards. For personal use, that alone has driven me off the platform. --- End quote --- Regarding the SD card problem, well, the issue predominantly lies with the actual SD card in the first place. Most of them are just trash, have no wear levering and are not designed for the purpose of hosting an OS environment. So your mileage will vary depending on how much you cheaped out on your storage. Invest in a better SD card, you get better performance and lifetime. I always choose cards from SanDisk High Endurance product line, as they are designed for lots of write operations like dashcam usage. I had a 32 GB SD card in a Pi torrent server/seeder, which was running 24/7 for at least 2 years now, and had no issues with reliability. I recently upgraded it to 256 GB. |
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