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ve7xen:

--- Quote from: rsjsouza on September 27, 2021, 09:48:09 pm ---Don't forget that the Raspberry Foundation was run by the Director of Marketing of BCM. They had severe ties to their main supplier that, even still, were unable to break through their own datasheets, binary blobs and supply chain to enable others to manufacture or create their own boards.

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From the beginning it's always felt to me like the RPi foundation was just a vehicle for BCM to stretch the profitability of some of its older process nodes / designs. They probably get some kind of charitable tax cuts for it too. It's a slimy arrangement.

Nobody serious about designing an open platform would ever even consider BCM, and here we are several generations later when they have the volume to get competitive pricing on more open options without the 'friend price' connections, and they are still using opaque and closed ICs. At least they don't really sell it as 'open'. But however they spin it, it seems much more like the PR arm of Broadcom to me than any legitimately-charitable, independent enterprise.


--- Quote ---(Anyone ever used the off-brand Pi clones like the Banana Pi or Orange Pi? They seemed kind of laughable when I saw them a long time ago, but now, they look rather surprising. Or maybe, in light of this thread, what's the sketchiest Pi-like board?)
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I have a few of them. Not sure what kind of report you're looking for, they work as they're supposed to for me. Mainline kernel support is pretty good these days https://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort

langwadt:

--- Quote from: ve7xen on September 27, 2021, 10:43:46 pm ---
--- Quote from: rsjsouza on September 27, 2021, 09:48:09 pm ---(Anyone ever used the off-brand Pi clones like the Banana Pi or Orange Pi? They seemed kind of laughable when I saw them a long time ago, but now, they look rather surprising. Or maybe, in light of this thread, what's the sketchiest Pi-like board?)
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I have a few of them. Not sure what kind of report you're looking for, they work as they're supposed to for me. Mainline kernel support is pretty good these days https://linux-sunxi.org/Linux_mainlining_effort

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so just like raspberry-pi, but since they are not made by $bigcorp it's ok

HobGoblyn:
Like Bassman59 I have a pi inside my 3D printer running Octoprint.

For the price, and the fact the nice people looking after Octoprint have already made the free software,  nothing else comes close. A complete no brainier.

I bought the pi for that use and couldn’t be happier.

langwadt:

--- Quote from: djacobow on September 27, 2021, 01:48:41 am ---Two years is not that much time. And, yes, most SD cards are garbage and many SD cards that are expensive and promise better life are also, unfortunate, garbage. In fact, it's very difficult to ascertain whether you have actually gotten the card you paid for. All good reasons not to build your storage system around it.

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you can stick an emmc on an sdcard adapter

AntiProtonBoy:

--- Quote from: bd139 on September 27, 2021, 04:38:46 pm ---This is quite funny because I run 20-odd production prometheus clusters on docker/kubernetes and there's one thing prometheus needs absolutely and that is IOPS and reliable storage. Putting it on a Pi is a stupid idea. It looks like it will work but it's going to burn fairly quickly. Also when it runs out of RAM, which it will (our proms are on 64Gb nodes), it goes down hard and will not start up again until you feed it much more RAM than the quiescent amount as it needs 2x more of it on startup than usual runtime to recover the data segments from the disk.
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You chose a setup that meets your environment's demand and requirements. That's perfectly sensible and fine. Obviously your use case is different to mine.


--- Quote ---Ramming all that stuff into a Pi to save electricity will result in a miserable day where you lose all your stuff. I guarantee it. My day job is doing this stuff professionally and I know how it works and where it will fail and how sad people are going to be. My sample size is huge compared to personal experiences on this matter.
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In my use case, I don't really care about any of that stuff. The Pi server does nothing mission critical other than running DNS server, being a seed box, and doing some other convenience networking stuff. If it dies, it dies. Fixing it would amount to nothing more than re-imaging a fresh SD card from backups. My primary goal was to run a seed box on the smell of an oil rag, that's about it, really. If I needed a production server, I'd probably use something else.


--- Quote ---Regarding running stuff on junk, you can buy ready turd polished junk on ebay for virtually nothing. I've been supplying those things to people for at least two decades to keep them going for low cost. And usually these days the machine comes with a Windows 10 license. Prior to her dropping dead I bought my mother a nice i7 desktop with 16Gb of RAM and a 256Gb SSD with a Windows 10 license on the case for £139. That's 1000x time better ROI even if the outlay is higher and the electricity difference is ~£20 a year.
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I do IT admin as a side gig, I managed to pick up a few HP ProDesk 600s for nothing. I re-purposed them for Linux workstations and to give some away. They are great machines, but still, none of them detracts the value of getting a Raspberry Pi for the purpose of playing around.


--- Quote ---it is not worth costing yourself 10x the effort to save £20 a year
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Where did you get that 10x effort from? Pi is pretty much plug and play.


--- Quote ---I will say this and I don't care but Liz and Ben though marketing hype have actually damaged people's education. All they did is blow people's time away and put a lot of people off entering the industry by presenting them with a wall of problems to solve before they could even begin their education
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Opinion.

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