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Piles of Tesla owners stranded at charge stations abandons their EV's.

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Bud:
Do not worry about your vehicle in apocalypse. Someone will come and take it from you. Either the government for the state military needs or a group of organized thugs.

vad:

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--- Quote from: tom66 on January 17, 2024, 04:36:44 pm ---I suspect a few solar panels is easier, you only need about 1kW to charge most EVs.  Also, not competing between your food and fuel demands is good.

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I am not an expert on solar, but according to a Forbes article a 1 kW solar system produces 750-850 kWh annually for average installation in North America. So charging Tesla Model 3 from 20% to 80% would take a whopping 2-3 weeks on average depending on battery option.

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Luckily cornfields grow overnight!

Also: I have about 13kWp on my roof.

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How is the output at night?

What is your solution for storing solar panels output for just a few hours, making the energy available for overnight charging? How complex is the solution?

PS. Luckily, dent corn has a shelf life of 30 years as a food source and much longer as a fuel source. All you need for storage is a cool, dry place.

Siwastaja:

--- Quote from: vad on January 18, 2024, 06:54:49 pm ---What is your solution for storing solar panels output for just a few hours, making the energy available for overnight charging? How complex is the solution?

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I just love this scenario that in apocalypse and total destruction of everything, you are farming your land, have still managed to have functioning PV system, even the sun is shining, and you have an EV you can charge, but the only problem is that.... you need to charge overnight because you have to drive to work in the morning!

floobydust:

--- Quote from: Bud on January 18, 2024, 05:50:21 pm ---Do not worry about your vehicle in apocalypse. Someone will come and take it from you. Either the government for the state military needs or a group of organized thugs.

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I fully expect Tesla's to croak without a connection to their HQ. I think it's 8-year term right now.
Have you renewed your Connectivity subscription? Sorry, we do not accept Zombie dollars lol. Lack of payment will lead to a brick...

I worked on an old vehicle that has no diodes, no transistors, no semiconductors - at all.
That was an uh huh moment at how far corporate overreach and monopoly building has gone.
It would survive EMP, works fine at -30°C and doesn't vampire suck monthly payments out of a person.
No safety features but you can drive.

Marco:
No man is an island, no machinery either. Yeah, it will be slightly easier to keep diesel going for 100 years with stocked parts, a machine shop and a farming community to harvest seed oil (not a one man operation, with enough spare parts maintaining a PV field is a one man operation though). Eventually you're going to need an industrial civilisation to keep everything going though.

Absent an apocalypse, productivity is more important than complexity for the moment ... so combines are complicated as hell, but bang for buck ye olde self maintained tractors are for hobbyists only. Likewise fuel is expensive enough that mileage matters and some electronics are profitable.

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