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| themadhippy:
--- Quote ---the tree burning generator is a highly optimized solution. --- End quote --- Apart from the shipping of the wood pellets from canada to the uk,meanwhile the uk pays to have its rubbish shipped off to sweden were its burnt and turned into electricity |
| EEVblog:
--- Quote from: coppercone2 on January 21, 2024, 07:55:53 am ---what is madness is the picture that you would see to show the gasoline production chain with a red gas can at the end. begin with a 1000 meter drilled bore, a oil well, a oil tanker, a refinery, a gasoline delivery truck, a gasoline station, finally the red can. Typical distance traveled (excluding the highly windy refinery plumbing) is at least 2000 miles. the production montage would have the world map with the red dashed line arrows on it ;D. Or a disturbingly long time lapse of the ship traveling across the god damn ocean. --- End quote --- I spent a decade working in the oil exploration industry. You don't know the half of it! |
| tom66:
If people are wearing blankets to extend the range of their EV, they're idiots, as simple as that. I drive with the heating on at the speed limit (or more, err, I mean, I'd never do that officer) and I've never had a problem. I've driven at -5C with heavy oncoming wind and got 10% worse efficiency to summer. The idea that EVs are unusable with heating on in the winter is FUD spread by people with an agenda, simple as that. |
| Siwastaja:
--- Quote from: tom66 on January 25, 2024, 02:07:22 pm ---If people are wearing blankets to extend the range of their EV, they're idiots, as simple as that. --- End quote --- Of course. Instead of blankets, just use winter clothes. You can't drive without heating though, totally impossible and unsafe. You can try and you quickly see how the windows are in frost in 15 minutes. Unless you put the fan to nearly max, and sit in the cold "wind", which is just even more horrible. Walking outdoors is one thing, your body makes the heat when all your muscles are in motion. Sitting standstill in cold wind is just too horrible. Lowest level of heating available sure. It is equally stupid to use +23degC setting and wonder how the range disappears. +16 is plenty if you have any winter clothing on, as you probably should because what are you going to do when you arrive at destination? Usually get out of the car and walk for some distance. It happens, if you are comfortable walking for some distance at, let's say -10degC, then the same amount of clothing is quite fine for sitting in a car at +15 or so. If you use any more heating, you are sweating and need to take off the clothes, which is just waste of time and effort. Keep them on. Besides, -5 is nothing, especially with any modern EV with heatpump. It's after -15..-20 when heating power starts to go through roof. And after -20, battery efficiency starts to drop, too, unless you have a warm garage, or drive all the time / use battery heating to keep the battery warm. At -30, real range is halved from the summer numbers, as the heating is now constantly hogging 4kW or so and battery efficiency has maybe dropped to 75%. |
| MT:
--- Quote from: tom66 on January 25, 2024, 02:07:22 pm ---If people are wearing blankets to extend the range of their EV, they're idiots, as simple as that. I drive with the heating on at the speed limit (or more, err, I mean, I'd never do that officer) and I've never had a problem. I've driven at -5C with heavy oncoming wind and got 10% worse efficiency to summer. The idea that EVs are unusable with heating on in the winter is FUD spread by people with an agenda, simple as that. --- End quote --- Dont be so harsh on the Chinese, see how they are smiling and are happy under the blankets! :) |
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