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coppice:
--- Quote from: tom66 on January 28, 2024, 10:30:40 pm ---ID.4 is a baby SUV, compare with something like a Tiguan/Audi Q3/etc.
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I've been in a Tiguan, and I've been in an ID4. The ID4 seems a lot bigger. I don't think they are comparable. Car sizes are deceptive. We have a Honda Jazz and a Volvo V90. The V90 seems huge compared to the Jazz, yet there is less than a 25% difference in length.
tom66:
--- Quote from: coppice on January 29, 2024, 05:50:12 pm ---
--- Quote from: tom66 on January 28, 2024, 10:30:40 pm ---ID.4 is a baby SUV, compare with something like a Tiguan/Audi Q3/etc.
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I've been in a Tiguan, and I've been in an ID4. The ID4 seems a lot bigger. I don't think they are comparable. Car sizes are deceptive. We have a Honda Jazz and a Volvo V90. The V90 seems huge compared to the Jazz, yet there is less than a 25% difference in length.
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If you look at the Carsized comparison you'll see the ID.4 is about 7.5cm longer than the Tiguan and 4.4cm taller; the width is essentially the same. The 4.4cm taller is eaten up by the battery pack height so I suspect interior height is no better than the Tiguan. And whilst the ID.4 is a tad longer, it will just feel roomier anyway because MEB platform cars are like that. (MEB platform is anything in the ID.n series, as well as ID.buzz and other products.)
The ID.3 is way roomier than my Golf GTE Mk7 was, I can have the seat all the way back so front passenger has almost 2ft of space in front of them and you could still comfortably get a smaller adult in the back, but the overall dimensions of the two vehicles are nearly identical. In a 'normal' position for the driver/passenger you get easily enough space for two 6'3" people to sit in the back which was never possible in the Golf. This is because there is no engine and transmission up front so you sit very far forwards. The balls of your feet rest almost against the wheel well and the wheel sits only about 12-15cm from the very front of the car. This does have a disadvantage though: I constantly find myself parking too far forwards and have to correct. It's hard to unlearn years of parking longer-nose cars. I'll figure it out eventually.
https://www.carsized.com/en/cars/compare/volkswagen-golf-2012-5-door-hatchback-vs-volkswagen-id3-2019-5-door-hatchback/
CatalinaWOW:
--- Quote from: coppice on January 29, 2024, 05:50:12 pm ---
--- Quote from: tom66 on January 28, 2024, 10:30:40 pm ---ID.4 is a baby SUV, compare with something like a Tiguan/Audi Q3/etc.
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I've been in a Tiguan, and I've been in an ID4. The ID4 seems a lot bigger. I don't think they are comparable. Car sizes are deceptive. We have a Honda Jazz and a Volvo V90. The V90 seems huge compared to the Jazz, yet there is less than a 25% difference in length.
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That 25% works out to a meter. If an extra meter gets allocated to the passenger compartment is would seem ocean liner spacious. Even if the passenger compartment doesn't get it all there is plenty for a huge difference in feel. If you are willing to accept another 25% you can get one of our American crew cab behemoths. They do seem extremely roomy inside, even for me and my son (both well over 2 meters tall). Of course finding parking spots, turning around and escaping the fuel pump are all far more difficult. I am willing to be "cramped" into a somewhat smaller vehicle.
coppice:
--- Quote from: CatalinaWOW on January 30, 2024, 03:21:22 am ---
--- Quote from: coppice on January 29, 2024, 05:50:12 pm ---
--- Quote from: tom66 on January 28, 2024, 10:30:40 pm ---ID.4 is a baby SUV, compare with something like a Tiguan/Audi Q3/etc.
--- End quote ---
I've been in a Tiguan, and I've been in an ID4. The ID4 seems a lot bigger. I don't think they are comparable. Car sizes are deceptive. We have a Honda Jazz and a Volvo V90. The V90 seems huge compared to the Jazz, yet there is less than a 25% difference in length.
--- End quote ---
That 25% works out to a meter. If an extra meter gets allocated to the passenger compartment is would seem ocean liner spacious. Even if the passenger compartment doesn't get it all there is plenty for a huge difference in feel. If you are willing to accept another 25% you can get one of our American crew cab behemoths. They do seem extremely roomy inside, even for me and my son (both well over 2 meters tall). Of course finding parking spots, turning around and escaping the fuel pump are all far more difficult. I am willing to be "cramped" into a somewhat smaller vehicle.
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If you are tall the Honda Jazz is one of the best small cars to drive. I can thoroughly recommend them. I can't fit in many fairly large (by European standards) cars, but I can happily drive that Honda for hours.
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