Poking the bear

[TheElectricChicken]

The west, unable to restrain itself from constantly provoking other countries, is poking at Nth Korea as per usual. This time, instead of ridiculously over-sized military drills between south korea and the USA on north koreas (almost) beaches, South Korea has taken to setting up huge banks of loudspeakers to annoy the crap out of North Korea, blasting propaganda across the border as loud as any rock concert sound system can carry it. So north korea shells the speakers, south korea shells the north and it's put out on NHK (comic store guy voice "Worst news channel ever") as north and south tensions heating up, without ever posing the question, " Has the south tried NOT provoking the north, Hello ? " what good is the whole bank of loudspeakers thing going to do except poke the bear deliberately ?

There is also the 10meter high wall that South korea built from one side of the country to the other. Same as the berlin wall, except that USA, UK, Australia, Japan, even the UN all ignore it's existence and never mention it at all. You'd think walls were done with, but you'd be wrong.

[Stonent]

Has the North tried not living in the 1950s?

[TheElectricChicken]

Has the North tried not living in the 1950s?

The lack of cancer and chemicals, the clean streets the fresh air, man they should move to "cancer alley" (it's in the USA) they just mention cancer alley on 'redacted tonight'

Welcome to North Korea where you have to follow your guide’s instructions and only take pictures of what we say. [...] Life here is the result of a unique 70-year social experiment in which the people are "shielded" from the "corrupting influence" of the outside world. [...] An RTD film crew was granted rare access to this unique country, which may seem to have leapt from the pages of a dystopian novel, to see what life is really like and what the people really think of their homeland and its leader.

[TheElectricChicken]

They also have lots and lots of trucks that run on wood. as in http://forum.driveonwood.com

[Mechanical Menace]

The west, unable to restrain itself from constantly provoking other countries, is poking at Nth Korea as per usual. This time, instead of ridiculously over-sized military drills between south korea and the USA on north koreas (almost) beaches, South Korea has taken to setting up huge banks of loudspeakers to annoy the crap out of North Korea, blasting propaganda across the border as loud as any rock concert sound system can carry it. So north korea shells the speakers, south korea shells the north and it's put out on NHK (comic store guy voice "Worst news channel ever") as north and south tensions heating up, without ever posing the question, " Has the south tried NOT provoking the north, Hello ? " what good is the whole bank of loudspeakers thing going to do except poke the bear deliberately ?

So if your neighbours play their music too loud shelling their HiFi is a reasonable response? It sounds like that's what you're saying. Also North Korea's constant and often unprovoked even by NKs over sensitive standards announcements they will wipe out the West completely isn't "poking the bear" in your eyes?

There is also the 10meter high wall that South korea built from one side of the country to the other. Same as the berlin wall, except that USA, UK, Australia, Japan, even the UN all ignore it's existence and never mention it at all. You'd think walls were done with, but you'd be wrong.

Heavily documented wall that is in part* South Korea trying to keep North Korea happy and part of most news reports and every documentary I've seen about that peninsula is ignored and hushed up? There's lots about it by the UN too...

Also what difference would it make if say the UK and Australia (who may for all I know but meh) was ignoring what you claim we are? The UK has less influence on the world stage in general than Australia and especially in that part of the world so there are only out of your examples the US and Japan that matter there. And why not mention China?



*A major reason it's there is so that NK refugees and asylum seekers have to take the long way around through China so as to not provoke NK as much when they get to SK. Doesn't stop NK threatening to nuke SK every time someone manages it though...

[TheElectricChicken]

So if your neighbours play their music too loud shelling their HiFi is a reasonable response?

THESE are the speakers, from ONE of the installations.


They have LOTS of speakers like that with the sole purpose of provoking the north. They put the work into provoking the north, so it's PERFECTLY reasonable for them to reap the rewards THEY WANTED.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/north-korea-resumes-loudspeaker-propaganda-warfare-south-korea-1515788

[Mechanical Menace]

They have LOTS of speakers like that with the sole purpose of provoking the north. They put the work into provoking the north, so it's PERFECTLY reasonable for them to reap the rewards THEY WANTED.

And I bet you really can hear them well at the minimum 4km away...

Way to ignore all the actual points though. And I like how you ignore that both sides have had similar towers for decades (since 1953), that they have occasionally stopped and then restarted their broadcasts during peace talks, and that the North did it first. The south erecting their towers as a response to the Norths seems a reasonable retaliation, shelling them doesn't. Shelling in response to being shelled seems like a reasonable reaction to me...

[TheElectricChicken]

And I bet you really can hear them well at the minimum 4km away...

It's 150m maximum. So why do it? The sole purpose is to provoke a response. It can't reach the whole country. It is an exercise with the one sole purpose of provocation. So the South Koreans want to whine when they get what they set out to get. Wingeing and Whining.

Way to ignore all the actual points though.

way to make up lies.

The south erecting their towers as a response to the Norths seems a reasonable retaliation, shelling them doesn't. Shelling in response to being shelled seems like a reasonable reaction to me...

More of the same. There are no towers on the North side, they don't have such a boner for provocation combined with the monumental stupidity to think that anyone can hear the speakers. It takes a rare kind of western thinking to come up with that. Like putting sanctions on Russia the same day they admit that 50 years of sanctions on cuba have been a total failure.

[TerraHertz]

THESE are the speakers, from ONE of the installations.


They have LOTS of speakers like that with the sole purpose of provoking the north. They put the work into provoking the north, so it's PERFECTLY reasonable for them to reap the rewards THEY WANTED.

If my neighbor set up something like that I'd want to shell them too.
Also, what's the bet it's not just loud music, but every combination of disturbing subsonics and fingernails on blackboards they can think of.



That's not the only place where US-controlled forces are doing everything they can to provoke WWIII. The crap the Ukrainian government is pulling at the moment is well into legendary-level insane.
http://thesaker.is/is-an-ukronazi-attack-imminent-yes-so-what-else-is-new/

Gee, you think there's maybe an urgent need for huge distraction from the currently commencing economic/banking implosion?

[Mechanical Menace]

And I bet you really can hear them well at the minimum 4km away...

It's 150m maximum.

150 meters to the border of the DMZ, which is a minimum 4000 meters wide at its narrowest.

So why do it? The sole purpose is to provoke a response.

Yep, that's exactly why the North does it and why the South reacts in kind.

Way to ignore all the actual points though.

way to make up lies.

Which points are lies exactly?

The south erecting their towers as a response to the Norths seems a reasonable retaliation, shelling them doesn't. Shelling in response to being shelled seems like a reasonable reaction to me...

More of the same. There are no towers on the North side

Like how liars like to accuse others of lying in response to been caught out lying and lie to back up their lies.

North and South Korea have ended the propaganda broadcasts they have blasted across their common border since the end of the Korean war in 1953.

[firewalker]

North Korea should conduct a nuke test to their border.

Alexander.

[TheElectricChicken]

North Korea should conduct a nuke test to their border.

Alexander.

They have to, the USA is constantly threatening to use nuclear weapons against Nth Korea and China, obviously they need a nuclear deterrent or the massive drills that the USA and Korea conduct on the north korean coast will turn into an invasion.

There is a big difference between the border, where the speakers are, and the DMZ where actual weapons are not allowed.

[Mechanical Menace]

North Korea should conduct a nuke test to their border.

Alexander.

They have to, the USA is constantly threatening to use nuclear weapons against Nth Korea and China

 

This person accuses others of lying and spreading propaganda?  Even the Chinese would laugh at that statement about their current BFF.

[TheElectricChicken]

Gee, you think there's maybe an urgent need for huge distraction from the currently commencing economic/banking implosion?

What ? aren't there enough "justin bieber" expert panels clogging australian TV news ? Please, let's all move in One direction with the media please.

The totally INDEPENDENT media that is. Totally. Independent.

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=easter+bunny+spring+step


"Obama Threatens China with Nuclear Weapons. Militarization of Asia-Pacific"
http://www.globalresearch.ca/obama-threatens-china-with-nuclear-weapons-militarization-of-asia-pacific/5446134

[TheElectricChicken]

The USA threatens to nuke other countries, wait, that's not north korea or china, wait, I'll try to find it amongst the LONG LIST of countries that the USA THREATENS to NUKE.

[TheElectricChicken]

"Obama Threatens Iran with Nuclear War" no, wait, that's Iran, I'll find it, there are so many countries to wade through. I think I just saw New Zealand on the list somewhere.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/obama-threatens-iran-with-nuclear-war/18644

[TheElectricChicken]

here it is, no, wait, this is Obama threatening China again.

http://www.thesleuthjournal.com/obama-threatens-china-with-nuclear-weapons/

"Obama Threatens China With Nuclear Weapons"

No nation in world history ever threatened humanity’s survival more than America.

None operates more recklessly. Lunatics in charge wage endless wars of aggression against nonbelligerent countries.

Peace and stability are verboten. Direct and proxy wars rage and more are planned.

In six years in office, Obama waged preemptive wars of aggression against seven nations. He has lots more death and destruction in mind.

wait I'll find it, getting a bit tired here, might have to take a restroom break and get something to eat, but I'll find it amongst the long list.

[German_EE]

The problem with North Korea is that the country has been run for the last three generations by a family of lunatics. It is therefore impossible to deal with the country using normal diplomatic channels because a) these will be ignored or b) they will be considered a sign of weakness by the other side. Until the Kim Jong family are removed from power North Korea will continue to be a problem.

However..................

North Korea has been a hobby of mine for years. I have a few dozen books about the country and the ruling family, I have a dozen or so albums of news articles and I am now starting to collect information in electronic format. The whole country is an enigma and I still wonder how they continue to survive in the 21st Century.

[TheElectricChicken]

The problem with North Korea is that the country has been run for the last three generations by a family of lunatics.

Yes, the Bush family. We should nuke first and get rid of....wait ? which country are we talking about again ?

[SeanB]

They have not threatened Zimbabwe, though that probably is because there is no oil there, only a lot of coal and there used to be tobacco.

[TheElectricChicken]

If my neighbor set up something like that I'd want to shell them too.
That's not the only place where US-controlled forces are doing everything they can to provoke WWIII. The crap the Ukrainian government is pulling at the moment is well into legendary-level insane.
http://thesaker.is/is-an-ukronazi-attack-imminent-yes-so-what-else-is-new/

Gee, you think there's maybe an urgent need for huge distraction from the currently commencing economic/banking implosion?

They're trying to save their economy by selling weapons to Europe to defend against the Tzar's submarines. Got billions, but it's not enough.

I recall all the fake Russian tank columns.
http://www.rt.com/news/232067-fake-photos-russian-army/
http://www.mediaite.com/online/inhofe-blames-ukrainian-delegation-for-providing-him-with-bogus-war-atrocity-photos/
http://www.buzzfeed.com/rosiegray/heres-the-ukrainian-delegation-that-gave-misleading-photos-t#.pbzwQjZQ0E

I recall that during the 'Russian aggression' all of the refugees fleeing the warzone fled TOWARDS Russia. Rather strange that they'd all go towards the country which is supposedly shelling them.

[TheElectricChicken]

They have not threatened Zimbabwe, though that probably is because there is no oil there, only a lot of coal and there used to be tobacco.

It depends on whether Zimbabwe accepts that they are not adult enough to govern themselves and wear big-boy pants. They don't have much time to decide.

"Obama Threatens More Sanctions Against Zimbabwe"

As Martin Armstrong exclaims, Obama is out of control. According to NewZimbabwe.com, Washington has said it will accelerate sanctions imposed against Harare in 2003, due to the Robert Mugabe-led government's closer ties with Russia over the US$3 billion Darwendale platinum project.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-06/obama-threatens-more-sanctions-against-zimbabwe-over-russian-platinum-deal

[Artlav]

Distractions, distractions...
Here the money continue to devalue.
On each slide down, some new bright piece of news emerges.

Real news: Ruble slides down a notch...
On TV: Putin took a ride on a submarine to the bottom of the Black Sea!

Real news: Ruble slides down a notch...
On TV: Contraband cheese is being run over by bulldozers, by the order of the government! Debates rage about whether to give it to the poor instead!

Real news: Ruble slides down a notch...
On TV: Wikipedia is going to be added to the censorship list if the company don't yield about removing an irrelevant article!


So, what are we being distracted from by this Korean business?

[TheElectricChicken]

Distractions, distractions...
So, what are we being distracted from by this Korean business?

Nuclear radiation proof clothing discussion was the topic I think ??



 

[EEVblog]

This off-topic thread is going to go nowhere but downhill. Locked.