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POLL: Any Interest in an EEVblog Mastodon server?
RoGeorge:
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--- Quote from: John B on November 24, 2022, 12:30:42 am ---But is it bound by german speech laws?
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No, you would be allowed to speak English. ::)
Seriously though -- what "German speech laws" were you thinking of?
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Are you tendentious or honestly do not know?
The laws in which one is not allowed to criticize the Jews.
EEVblog:
--- Quote from: ebastler on November 24, 2022, 10:09:11 pm ---
--- Quote from: John B on November 24, 2022, 09:22:33 pm ---The German conception of "hate speech".
Laws against insulting people.
Laws providing the German government with control over social media to censor content.
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All of these are European Community laws/directives, so be careful where you put your server...
I read that Australia and New Zealand might not be the best choices either?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_Australia
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/nzs-hate-speech-laws-explained
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Australia does not have a Bill of Rights >:(
EEVblog:
--- Quote from: artag on November 24, 2022, 11:16:43 pm ---About half my twitter follows have started either dual posting or moved completely to mastodon. There are a handful of holdouts but it's looking like I'll soon only want to read twitter for corporate postings, if at all. Musk seems to be trying hard to lose his money. It probably won't collapse, but for me, with interests mostly in tech and makering, I see it getting irrelevant pretty fast.
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Chris Gammell said something similar and has announced he's only using Twitter for work now and is auto crossposting there from Mastodon and will not interact on Twitter any more.
I haven't really noticed any difference on my Twitter feed.
I know there are several electroncis people I follow now have Mastodon account, but it doesn't seem permanent.
Any creator ditiching Twitter for Mastodon is crazy IMO, it's shaping up to be an excellent place for creators, with potential monetisation opportunities.
John B:
--- Quote from: ebastler on November 24, 2022, 10:09:11 pm ---
--- Quote from: John B on November 24, 2022, 09:22:33 pm ---The German conception of "hate speech".
Laws against insulting people.
Laws providing the German government with control over social media to censor content.
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All of these are European Community laws/directives, so be careful where you put your server...
I read that Australia and New Zealand might not be the best choices either?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_Australia
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/nzs-hate-speech-laws-explained
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I would agree. I don't trust the Australian government to intervene in social discourse very much at all. The state and federal governments showed their idea of free exchange of ideas during the covid pandemic.
Jackster:
--- Quote from: artag on November 24, 2022, 11:16:43 pm ---
Seems like it would scale pretty well if every instance is a different server.
Or is there some central tie that has to scale with the whole network ?
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Correct. I was thinking more of a single instance but of course, that is not what the platform is designed for.
It has to push/pull data between instances so it would only load that instance if users of said instance connected to a lot of other users on one or more other instances.
This could be used as a sort of DDOS if one or more users on a smaller instance (with limited hardware) followed every other user on every other node.
The smaller node the user is on would then have to push/pull a lot of data which is CPU bound.
Maybe there are some hard limits in terms of following count per user to stop this now, IDK...
You could actually bog down other nodes as well by spamming out a lot of content but it is not hard to tell what is going on and ban said instances.
I recall something like this happening at one point when I was hosting. We all just banned that instance and the problem went away.
This does prove a point that this sort of federated social media system has flaws but also has the ability to work around them and moderate out bad actors.
Note, the Fediverse is P2P, with no central node that needs to scale. Just thought I would add that in.
Instances connect with each other. Users are the ones that start the connections between nodes.
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