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POLL: Any Interest in an EEVblog Mastodon server?

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artag:

--- Quote from: EEVblog on November 24, 2022, 11:28:22 pm ---Chris Gammell said something similar and has announced he's only using Twitter for work now and is auto crossposting there from Mastodon and will not interact on Twitter any more.
I haven't really noticed any difference on my Twitter feed.
I know there are several electroncis people I follow now have Mastodon account, but it doesn't seem permanent.

Any creator ditiching Twitter for Mastodon is crazy IMO, it's shaping up to be an excellent place for creators, with potential monetisation opportunities.

--- End quote ---

It's not that my twitter feed has changed. It's that the contributors are mostly dual-posting. If twitter survives as a useful place they will still have followers. If the interesting people leave they've already have rebuilt it somewhere without a lock-in.

To be fair, I don't follow celebrities. I think the two biggest accounts I follow there are yours and Naomi's - and she's crossposting. For people that do, it will probably remain fine, but my feeling is that makers aren't strongly represented there. The interesting posts to me are often not the start of a thread but the little people who respond to it. Mastodon is pretty much up to speed in that respect already. 

In Dave's position, I'd crosspost and watch both streams to see which worked the best. It covers the options with no loss.
I see no advantage in an eevblog instance, though. Yes, it would be good to have an ee instance but the eevblog forum is a strong brand. Why dilute it ?

Of course, in a sensible world, twitter would federate. Can't see that happening.  But the internet has been here before - Usenet was vastly superior to the hotchpotch of gated communities that bulletin board operators used to like, and the big guns that corporate interests prefer. It will swing back to a decentralised system because one size doesn't fit all. I see the next step as small forums federating (remember, it's a protocol, not a monoculture) and the big boys going the way of yahoo, geocities and the rest of the internet detritus.  Might take 10 or 20 years, but owners like Musk pulling their weight instead of being a service is the beginning of the end for them.

As for twitter being good for creators .. it might, if it stops being twitter. Long posts are still painful. Video is just a url to something worthwhile posted elsewhere. I could see Musk making it a direct competitor to facebook in order to turn a profit .. and I won't be on either of them, and nor will anyone I follow. I presume you're talking about content creators, not physical creators. The latter aren't usually in it for monetisation, but they are the source of it, just as artists tend to pave the way for urban renewal but move on when commercial gentrification catches up.

eti:
In my hopefully humble view, I would think that if any significant software investments would be worthy of putting time into, they'd be put into making this forum a little less clunky (footer background & terrible contrast of the URLs are poor from a usability standpoint) and maybe fixing the attachment mechanism. It's overall in good shape, as a non forum software person, but it's a bit clunky and hanging onto 1996 for dear life in many areas. Also a way to prevent "Captain multi-multi-multi-multi-multi-quote" folks from propagating the GHASTLY MESS of  embedded, nested quotes, would bring the forum much needed functionality improvement.

Humans are humans. As much as you tell them "don't quote-quote-quote" you are talking to HUMANS, and they can be VERY dense at times - the mechanism needs to FORCE them to not be able to do this.

SiliconWizard:
Apart from whay I already said, I would second the point of not wasting resources and energy on something that would only split information across different media which IMO would not benefit anyone in the end. One strong point of this forum is that it brings together a lot of people, and the nature of it being a forum makes it much more interesting content-wise than a Twitter-like system. People tend to take more time to post on a forum like this one than on those quick-post networks, and since Dave has complete control over it, it's also a lot more time-proof. So I'd second putting some effort, if anything, to improve this forum rather than scatter efforts on alternative networks.

That said, I understand Dave's presence on Twitter, so I'm not questioning that - I think it's important for the business side of things. We need to keep in mind that EEVBlog is a business.

EEVblog:

--- Quote from: artag on November 25, 2022, 04:24:38 pm ---As for twitter being good for creators .. it might, if it stops being twitter. Long posts are still painful. Video is just a url to something worthwhile posted elsewhere. I could see Musk making it a direct competitor to facebook in order to turn a profit .. and I won't be on either of them, and nor will anyone I follow. I presume you're talking about content creators, not physical creators. The latter aren't usually in it for monetisation, but they are the source of it, just as artists tend to pave the way for urban renewal but move on when commercial gentrification catches up.

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Yes, content creators.
Well known Makers are also by definition content creators, otherwise how do they become well known? They use Youtube, a blog, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook etc to show off their work.
Musk has said twitter will be a competitor to Youtube, and apparently even Mr Beast is on board with it. It's a no brainer to have blog style content too, and images to rival Instagram.
One platform, just different tabs for different stuff.

voltsandjolts:
As SiliWiz said, one common meeting place is the best option, this forum.

A few folks have commented that this SMF forum software and appearance could do with some tweaks or updating....I would say if changing anything please only make very minor changes. I find the usablility and presentation of this forum to be by far the least worst I have encountered out there on the web. Yes, it may look a bit 1996, but that is far better than the modern-style forums which have so much waisted space and glitzy graphic BS. The density of text / information is just right here, IMHO.

Perhaps its for the same reason that I would say DigiKey has the best component vendor site (despite recent negative changes). It's just well presented, mostly correct, searchable text info. Farnell and RS are just so clunky in comparison.

I blame millennial web designers.

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