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| Monkeh:
A little copper on show is hardly a big issue - actually, it's reassuring to see the insulation isn't up under the screw.. |
| Black Phoenix:
--- Quote from: Gyro on October 14, 2022, 01:21:04 pm ---It's pretty difficult not to show any copper on the PE bar unless you spend ages trimming the slide-on sleeving perfectly to length. As for those thick neutrals, they look pre-terminated (as supplied with the CU), there's really nothing you can do about that unless you cut off the terminations and add your own ferrules. Most CUs have exposed Neutral and PE bars anyway. With those enclosed ones, you can't judge how far past the screws the conductors are actually inserted (quite a way looking at the Neutral crimps) --- End quote --- They don't look like sleeved PE but wire already sold with the PE insulation, the same as you buy brown, black, red and blue insulated wire. --- Quote from: themadhippy on October 14, 2022, 01:24:12 pm ---A bigger breach of the regs is the bit of earth sleeving being use on the low voltage wires on the bottom of the meter,green/yellow is reserved for earth and only earth --- End quote --- Good eye. Yes way worse. |
| Monkeh:
--- Quote from: Black Phoenix on October 15, 2022, 01:13:09 am --- --- Quote from: Gyro on October 14, 2022, 01:21:04 pm ---It's pretty difficult not to show any copper on the PE bar unless you spend ages trimming the slide-on sleeving perfectly to length. As for those thick neutrals, they look pre-terminated (as supplied with the CU), there's really nothing you can do about that unless you cut off the terminations and add your own ferrules. Most CUs have exposed Neutral and PE bars anyway. With those enclosed ones, you can't judge how far past the screws the conductors are actually inserted (quite a way looking at the Neutral crimps) --- End quote --- They don't look like sleeved PE but wire already sold with the PE insulation, the same as you buy brown, black, red and blue insulated wire. --- End quote --- No, they're sleeved - you can tell from the way it bunches. That and you can see the bare cable in the back.. |
| Black Phoenix:
--- Quote from: Monkeh on October 15, 2022, 01:15:01 am --- --- Quote from: Black Phoenix on October 15, 2022, 01:13:09 am --- --- Quote from: Gyro on October 14, 2022, 01:21:04 pm ---It's pretty difficult not to show any copper on the PE bar unless you spend ages trimming the slide-on sleeving perfectly to length. As for those thick neutrals, they look pre-terminated (as supplied with the CU), there's really nothing you can do about that unless you cut off the terminations and add your own ferrules. Most CUs have exposed Neutral and PE bars anyway. With those enclosed ones, you can't judge how far past the screws the conductors are actually inserted (quite a way looking at the Neutral crimps) --- End quote --- They don't look like sleeved PE but wire already sold with the PE insulation, the same as you buy brown, black, red and blue insulated wire. --- End quote --- No, they're sleeved - you can tell from the way it bunches. That and you can see the bare cable in the back.. --- End quote --- OK I should had explained better, I'm talking about the 2 thick one on the top right most. The sleeved ones as you said only one you see the copper, the first one. The others are ok, nothing to say. But whatever I'm just being picky. I try not to leave that much copper being shown, normally less than 2mm from the terminal, enough to see that I'm not pitching the insulation with the terminal screw, if it's not feruded. Also I never used bare copper with PE insulation, the instalations I've done was always Pre insulated PE cable - solid or stranded. Although I know is somewhat common in the US/JPN/UK instalations. When I need to, I use the normal 3M insulation tape for identification above the insulation |
| Smokey:
--- Quote from: Gregg on October 10, 2022, 09:01:40 pm ---Pictures of my 200 amp 230 volt breaker panel in rural USA where the meter is outside in a separate enclosure. ... --- End quote --- That's one neatly labeled panel! |
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