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--- Quote from: Smokey on October 15, 2022, 03:23:14 am ---
--- Quote from: Gregg on October 10, 2022, 09:01:40 pm ---Pictures of my 200 amp 230 volt breaker panel in rural USA where the meter is outside in a separate enclosure. 
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That's one neatly labeled panel!

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There's no excuse in this day and age of cheap label printers to not have a neatly labelled panel.



That isn't one of mine, mine are slightly neater... but it gives you the general idea of how we do it. With a Brother printer, and not a Dymo one, of course...


EDIT: That was halfway through the project, it has about 3/4 of the ways used now, and the apprentices that variously had their hands in labelling it didn't get all the labels straight, and layered some of them because they couldn't get the spacing right.

Gyro:

--- Quote from: Black Phoenix on October 15, 2022, 01:32:36 am ---Also I never used bare copper with PE insulation, the instalations I've done was always Pre insulated PE cable - solid or stranded. Although I know is somewhat common in the US/JPN/UK instalations.

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I think this is probaby a geographical confusion. Maybe your wiring systems in HK use conduit and single conductors. In the UK, and as far as I'm aware continental Europe we use T&E cables (Twin and Earth) these oval section cables have double insulated Line and Neutral conductors with a bare PE core all molded into the PVC outer cover. When stripped, you have insulated and colour coded L and N cores and a bare PE, which you have to slip sleeving over. It is unavoidable in consumer installations.

Black Phoenix:

--- Quote from: Gyro on October 15, 2022, 08:28:30 am ---
--- Quote from: Black Phoenix on October 15, 2022, 01:32:36 am ---Also I never used bare copper with PE insulation, the instalations I've done was always Pre insulated PE cable - solid or stranded. Although I know is somewhat common in the US/JPN/UK instalations.

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I think this is probaby a geographical confusion. Maybe your wiring systems in HK use conduit and single conductors. In the UK, and as far as I'm aware continental Europe we use T&E cables (Twin and Earth) these oval section cables have double insulated Line and Neutral conductors with a bare PE core all molded into the PVC outer cover. When stripped, you have insulated and colour coded L and N cores and a bare PE, which you have to slip sleeving over. It is unavoidable in consumer installations.

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Not in Portugal, my country, since the 80s. Conduit inside the wall and singles. Same in China, Hong Kong, Macau (this last 2 new Instalations, old ones use the UK standard, so as you say, including in Hong Kong Ring circuits) and Germany from what I saw and done.

Here's an example in Germany:
https://youtu.be/83Mdnc7FyVY

Norway:
https://youtu.be/Js5ny1JcDLs

In China:
https://youtu.be/oPo6MyArMQ8

It's exactly the same in Portugal for newer Instalations, if the conduit is outside the wall can be singles or outer pvc jacket with inside individual singles, or if it's inside it will be singles already insulated.

Even if a cable is to be crimped to the wall it will be  3 individual conductors already with their correct colour sleeve in a outer protective jacket.

As I told bare earth copper that you later sleeved only saw in UK, US and Japan.

BillyD:
We may never know the exact number of fatalities caused by those 10 inches of green and yellow sleeving to date, only that the sooner we start doing EICRs in this country the sooner the slaughter can be halted.

PlainName:

--- Quote ---With a Brother printer, and not a Dymo one, of course...
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Is there a practical difference?

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