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EPAIII:
Well, if your country has elections, you can vote.




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--- Quote from: VK3DRB on August 15, 2023, 09:06:20 am ---Is this a case of Big Brother Watching You, a good law, or just a money making racket by the state government?

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There's nothing you can do about it.

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EPAIII:
I read that three times and my head hurt worse and worse each one. Do "they" even know what that means?

I suspect it will be the lawyers who make the most from this.




--- Quote from: VK3DRB on August 16, 2023, 07:28:36 am ---I may have found an exit clause, even though it conflicts with other statements made by the regulator. It sounds like they have not thought out the corner cases very well, which is not surprising.

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gnuarm:

--- Quote from: VK3DRB on August 15, 2023, 09:06:20 am ---Hi.

Our state government has demanded engineers working as professional engineers are registered, else pay hefty fines. There is new legislation in Victoria that requires professional engineers to be registered. It is primarily aimed at the building industry. But they do mention those who develop RF devices and medical devices which affects me. I am qualified to be registered and see some merit in it, but the fees are a bloody rip-off.

The bureaucrats do not mention electronics engineers, only electrical engineers. This creates ambiguity, and might be used by some as a “get out of jail free” card for electronics engineers. https://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/licensing-and-registration/professional-engineers

Is this a case of Big Brother Watching You, a good law, or just a money making racket by the state government?

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I'm not familiar with universities making a distinction between electrical and electronic engineering. 

I've read that in some US states they have similar requirements.  In most states, registering as a professional engineer is optional.  I believe there is an exam, and the engineer has more liability issues for their work. 

In Texas, I'm told the requirement is if you claim to be an "engineer" as opposed to a designer, you must register as a professional engineer.  I don't believe there is a test, but you can't claim to be an engineer without the registration.  This applies to someone working temporarily as well as a resident.  That's how I heard about it.   Most simply say they are electronic designers, I'm told.

VK3DRB:

--- Quote from: gnuarm on August 16, 2023, 08:45:11 am ---
--- Quote from: VK3DRB on August 15, 2023, 09:06:20 am ---Hi.

Our state government has demanded engineers working as professional engineers are registered, else pay hefty fines. There is new legislation in Victoria that requires professional engineers to be registered. It is primarily aimed at the building industry. But they do mention those who develop RF devices and medical devices which affects me. I am qualified to be registered and see some merit in it, but the fees are a bloody rip-off.

The bureaucrats do not mention electronics engineers, only electrical engineers. This creates ambiguity, and might be used by some as a “get out of jail free” card for electronics engineers. https://www.consumer.vic.gov.au/licensing-and-registration/professional-engineers

Is this a case of Big Brother Watching You, a good law, or just a money making racket by the state government?

--- End quote ---

I'm not familiar with universities making a distinction between electrical and electronic engineering. 

I've read that in some US states they have similar requirements.  In most states, registering as a professional engineer is optional.  I believe there is an exam, and the engineer has more liability issues for their work. 

In Texas, I'm told the requirement is if you claim to be an "engineer" as opposed to a designer, you must register as a professional engineer.  I don't believe there is a test, but you can't claim to be an engineer without the registration.  This applies to someone working temporarily as well as a resident.  That's how I heard about it.   Most simply say they are electronic designers, I'm told.

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In Australia, unfortunately anyone can call themselves an engineer without qualifications or experience.

A side note: An ex-colleague said if he meets a nice young woman at a party, he never says he is an engineer, but instead says he is a designer. The former turns them off as he has found.

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