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Pronunciation of "via(s)"
tooki:
--- Quote from: eti on October 17, 2020, 09:32:26 pm ---
--- Quote from: TimFox on October 17, 2020, 08:50:45 pm ---I have lived in the US for lo, these 70 years and have never heard “mul timmitur”. Perhaps you are thinking of “altimeter”?
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Nope, I heard it 5x in the last week, from Americans on YouTube, and also my "Google Home" virtual assistant pronounces it this way too, in her American accent.
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Algorithmic text-to-speech pronunciations are not in any way indicative of correct pronunciation in a non-phonetic (written) language like English! :p
Remember the famous “ghoti” example? ;D
Ed.Kloonk:
What is soddering anyway?
Sounds like a prison activity.
tooki:
--- Quote from: eti on October 18, 2020, 12:48:29 am ---
--- Quote from: TimFox on October 17, 2020, 09:47:44 pm ---I have successfully avoided these speakers. How do the English pronounce “multiply” and “multiple”, with an “eye” for an “I”? And how do they pronounce “altimeter”?
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British English (Gold standard, national accent - not "RP" speech but the generic, non-geographic English which is more and more prevalent in England now)
~~ Phonetically ~~:
"Multiply": "Mul tee ply"
"Multiple": "Mul tipple"
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I don’t think that’s correct. Not only from my experience (since probably 95% of the English speakers I interact with regularly are British), but also according to the OED, as well as multiple (British human, not text to speech) pronunciation guides on YouTube. It’s “mul-tip-lie” (hyphens inserted not to signify syllable breaks, solely to disambiguate the sound by using actual words where possible).
The “i” in multiply is the same sound as the “i” in “is”.
In contrast, the “i” (and the first “e”) in multimeter is the same sound as the “e” in “we”.
(I studied linguistics at university, so have some practice in careful sound identification — it’s astounding how much our mind plays tricks with us regarding sounds, in that we mentally group slightly different sounds into what we call “phonemes” that are then parsed for meaning. It takes practice to overcome this, and even so is imperfect...)
tooki:
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on October 18, 2020, 10:59:39 am ---What is soddering anyway?
Sounds like a prison activity.
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Please, please, PLEASE let that one go. It’s been discussed to death, and then some, on every.... damned... soldering.... video... that is posted by an American. :horse: :horse: :horse: :horse:
(Executive summary for those who don’t know: that is the correct pronunciation in American English, whose pronunciation of that word remains closer to the French word it originated from, and does not represent American laziness or inability to read. There are silent “L”s in all variants of English. We know, it sounds like a dirty word in British. There, I think I’ve addressed all the points anyone has ever made in those discussions. No need to re-hash it.)
Ed.Kloonk:
--- Quote from: tooki on October 18, 2020, 11:05:07 am ---
--- Quote from: Ed.Kloonk on October 18, 2020, 10:59:39 am ---What is soddering anyway?
Sounds like a prison activity.
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Please, please, PLEASE let that one go. It’s been discussed to death, and then some, on every.... damned... soldering.... video... that is posted by an American. :horse: :horse: :horse: :horse:
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:)
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