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| Neutrion:
--- Quote from: coppice on November 28, 2023, 06:00:34 pm --- --- Quote from: Bud on November 28, 2023, 05:55:01 pm --- --- Quote from: Neutrion on November 28, 2023, 05:31:05 pm ---They found that people were able to estimate other peoples intelligence levels by the look of a single picture. --- End quote --- IBM first meeting Bill Gates: "We were waiting in the front, and this young fella came out to take us back to Mr. Gates office. I thought he was the office boy." ;D --- End quote --- That may have more to do with his look of youth than his apparent IQ. Also a lot of business people are not exactly the sharpest tools in the shed, so they might lack this ability to get a good estimate of intelligence. --- End quote --- Participants in the test were average people. The case with Gates could be biased by clothing, age, situation, etc. This experiment was done in a way to possibly exclude all these factors. After the initial guess they were also later allowed to see videos about the guessed persons, so there were many stages. |
| floobydust:
3rd year university, all engineering students are told their grades are going to be "normalized" with those of other faculties such as Science, Computing Science, Physics, Math etc. We were all "huh?" :-// It turns out engineering grades for the same courses were held down, much lower which was a problem for students transferring between faculties and of course... weak students needed a better chance at passing in engineering. Instead of weeding them out. Made me laugh because 1st year engineering was brutal for marks, they trashed students on purpose to get them to drop out - you don't get a refund on tuition then. The uni made good money off this and enrollment numbers looked good for the government. So all of our grades took a jump up, I estimate +20% or ~1/9.0 scale :-+ That was the day I realized student achievement and merit is arbitrary. Any problems you can blame the students for being lazy, low achievers. Set the bar wherever you like, but the Bell Curve can still be hacked and warped as needed. In academia there are many "weak" profs that used a garbage thesis for their PhD. Some were pretty dumb but got their post-doc. Merit? It could not be measured. Even volume, # of papers published actually means nothing. The content of the papers was most important but nobody ranks that, including the funding and grant agencies- that bring money into a university. An ounce of image is worth a pound of performance. |
| Neutrion:
--- Quote from: EEVblog on November 28, 2023, 04:05:28 am --- EDIT: A 6 year PhD in Anthropology and Women’s, Gender, and Sexuality Studies at no less than Yale anyone? https://anthropology.yale.edu/academics/graduate-programs/combined-phd-anthropology-wgss --- End quote --- Full of women? Well I would like to do a long term study for my Phd work on "Measuring Caucasian Humans with female reproductive organs changing intensity of reproductive instinct in direct contact with a male test person with male reproductive organs under variable mechanical arrangements and verbal communication patterns" Unfortunately a lot of experiments are needed for it, but I am sure the leaders of the programs will help me with the arrangement of them. I hope I can apply for some scholarship as well. |
| tszaboo:
--- Quote from: coppice on November 28, 2023, 05:51:38 pm --- --- Quote from: tszaboo on November 28, 2023, 01:13:01 pm ---Well, that's what you get when you let a leftist through your door. They shame you for who you are, send you on reeducation camp, or get you fired. Set up camp, and make policies like this. Never hire an identity politician, they are truly the most toxic employees, and what their policies are doing is in fact illegal. --- Quote from: audiotubes on November 28, 2023, 11:10:07 am --- --- Quote from: Bud on November 28, 2023, 04:18:42 am ---the Pareto rule is about to change from "20% people doing 80% work" to "5% people doing 95% work." :-X --- End quote --- I'm pretty sure the 5/95 rule has been in effect for several decades already :( --- End quote --- It's called Price's law, and for large organizations it's much worse than 80/20 or even 95/5. --- End quote --- 80/20 comes from the Pareto distribution. Price's law says half the results are produced by the most productive square root of the workforce. The two things are related, but not the same. Pareto is basically what happens when you have a statistical distribution with one end clipped. For example, there is no practical limit to how rich someone can get, but if poverty leads you to starve to death you are out of the game. Simulate the statistics of that and you will find you get more and more people out of the game, and a few winners taking all. If you just slightly nudge the destitute back into the game using a minor tax on the big winners you can massively even things up. If politicians could actually follow a statistics course they might act very differently. --- End quote --- What I'm saying is that Price's law is more applicable for a workspace work/effort assessment, than Pareto principle, since that is actually describing a work done by different people. I've always applied Pareto's principle as an estimation on how much time it takes to do 80% of the work. But then, strangely, Pareto's principle approximates a solution to Price's law, for a certain sized organization. --- Quote from: Neutrion on November 28, 2023, 06:48:25 pm --- --- Quote from: EEVblog on November 28, 2023, 04:05:28 am --- EDIT: A 6 year PhD in Anthropology and Women’s, Gender, and Sexuality Studies at no less than Yale anyone? https://anthropology.yale.edu/academics/graduate-programs/combined-phd-anthropology-wgss --- End quote --- Full of women? --- End quote --- We should demand equal representation in those studies. And reduce the faculty numbers until it's 50% men. |
| coppice:
--- Quote from: tszaboo on November 28, 2023, 07:24:36 pm ---What I'm saying is that Price's law is more applicable for a workspace work/effort assessment, than Pareto principle, since that is actually describing a work done by different people. I've always applied Pareto's principle as an estimation on how much time it takes to do 80% of the work. But then, strangely, Pareto's principle approximates a solution to Price's law, for a certain sized organization. --- End quote --- That's inaccurate. Price's Law doesn't refer to work done. It refers to results achieved. Most people in most organisations are doing quite lot of work. Most just aren't producing many useful results. What I find most interesting about Price's Law is it seems like something that should only apply to high skill activities, yet people who have tried to apply it to things like simple assembly work have found it a good fit there, too. |
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