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Rant: Can't wait for the end of internal combustion vehicles
2N3055:
--- Quote from: Electro Detective on May 11, 2020, 09:30:58 am ---
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--- Quote from: vodka on May 10, 2020, 07:56:49 pm ---A few fiber or steel wire may be the solution.
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Have you actually done something like that or are you only playing a smartass on TV? This would qualify as attempted murder in most places, never mind that you can't exactly string a wire across the public street! :palm:
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A lot easier and less mess getting a few masked good ol boys to follow the creeps and grab them when they stop at the lights
Copy their IDs and phone numbers, and tell them nicely what streets are no go from now on, and to spread the Word to others,
and understood there's no second friendly meeting, or Word >:D
The good ol POLICE used to do that once upon a time, and I still remember their Word to this day,
and never pushed my luck to hear it again :phew:
To be fair to all noisy idiots, there's an appropriate time and place for it,
otherwise give it a miss before sleep deprived Joe Public and his punchy mates go v!g!lant! on your case >:( >:(
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You do know Mad Max is fiction, do you ???
Bassman59:
--- Quote from: daqq on May 11, 2020, 07:15:34 am ---
--- Quote from: themadhippy on May 10, 2020, 07:27:04 pm ---
--- Quote ---or in the case of motorcycles the intentionally loud exhaust,
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Loud pipes saves lives.
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There's loud and then there's an insanely loud dickhead driving through the middle of a city at 10 PM, that can be heard five seconds before driving around my house and five seconds after, managing to wake up my kid.
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This is the nightly occurrence near my house, which is in a moderate-sized southwest-US city. And the cops don't give a shit. They could park a couple of cops near the usual intersections and they could simply impound all of the riders and the problem would go away. But they don't do it.
--- Quote ---Quite frankly that's a life that's not worth saving.
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I agree.
I hear the high/fast revving of engines, and I keep waiting for the inevitable crash. Still waiting.
IDEngineer:
--- Quote from: JPortici on May 11, 2020, 05:43:45 am ---elecric vehichles will be MANDATED to make sound as they go because people and animals need to be aware that the vehichle is on and running.
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Maybe they can just take the V8 engine sound that some "sports" cars with lesser engines presently route through the internal speakers (I am not making that up, https://www.thedrive.com/tech/22834/from-acura-to-vw-bmw-to-porsche-car-companies-are-getting-sneakier-about-engine-sound-enhancement) and pump it through externally mounted speakers on electric cars. I offer this idea free for nothing as my contribution to the electric car industry. :-DD
Seriously though, the near-silence of an electric car is its Number One attraction for me. If electric cars are required to generate artificial noise, my interest in purchasing one drops to less than zero. Yes, less than zero, they have other inherent disadvantages which the silence just barely overcomes... if that's lost, I'd actively seek to NOT own one.
EDIT: As for silence, our Toyota minivan's engine is so quiet that I've actually parked and gotten out of it leaving the engine running. More than once. So has my wife. And our hearing is great. So are "they" going to impose a "minimum noise threshold" on ICE's too, or is that prejudice reserved only for electric cars?
Rick Law:
--- Quote from: intmpe on May 11, 2020, 07:12:55 am ---
--- Quote from: Alex Eisenhut on May 10, 2020, 07:02:44 pm ---Sitting at home all day I can hear the vehicles go by.
The annoying noise of bad mufflers, or in the case of motorcycles the intentionally loud exhaust, makes me want electric cars to take over asap.
But then, what will people that need noise do?
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You should move next to a commuter rail. Your hatred of motorcycles will be cured.
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There was a time a commuter rail was right behind my apartment building.
If frequent enough, I think most will get used to the noise around them and sleep without problem. Prior to that, my front door opens literally to Main Street which also was a state highway, I got used to that and slept without problem. After I moved from that commuter rail to another place not near a highway or rail, I got used to the neighbors arguments and their over-exaggerated mating activities, and I have personal knowledge of their infidelities but of course I kept to my own business and I got used to that too.
Then I moved rural - a rail track with a road crossing (horn blowing) a mile away with occasional night train(s). I had to re-acquire the "getting used to" and I did.
Now, I want the gardeners to do the leaf-blowing everyday, then I could get used to that. They do blowing less than once a month. Enough to be annoying but not enough to "get used to it" while I sleep. We should have a law that shooting at leaf-blowers is a justifiable self-defense. Perhaps I am being hard on the gardeners. They keep on driving over stuff on my lawn. I don't know how many times I had to deal with the squashed rain-drainage pipes. One time, I manage to stop him and talk to him right before he drove over it - he smiled, said nothing, and then continued and squashed my drain pipes again.
jeffheath:
Why is hot-rodding such a big industry? Why was hardley ableson so big? It's probably not because (the people who drive them) don't like how the engines of those vehicles sound. I'm going to take a wild guess here and say that they like how those engines sound, and don't care if they're too loud. Another thing is that their ears have probably adjusted (become damaged) to the point where they're comfortable with the sound. Sometimes the exhaust reverberates, and it never sounds good.
Apart from that, loud pipes don't save lives, motorcycles are inherently less noticeable to the average driver, so the probability of an accident is already so high that the exhaust system makes little difference statistically. Also, this isn't helped by the fact that many who preach this mentality are the same ones who don't wear a helmet. Another thing, please don't confuse the people with fart cans and speed holes in their mufflers with those that actually have good exhaust systems that sound good but aren't too loud.
Having said all that, human drivers are inherently flawed, and excluding motorcycles, I certainly wouldn't mind it if there was nothing but driver less electric cars. If they could work out all the kinks, there would be less accidents, and I could make longer trips without having to stay at a motel.
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