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Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« on: December 21, 2019, 03:48:38 am »
Reading Cinemas.

Their stupid bloody website.

Once a year I go to the cinema, not really a flick fan. Only go for the experience. Nice big screen, sit there with my drink and popcorn. Nice big gold lounge seat.

Herein lies the problem. Trying to pre purchase a damn ticket for a seat. For any session, before you can even see if any seats are available, there are four fields that must be selected for -every- search: the location, the movie, the date, the session time.

Then, you get sent to another page asking how many seats. Then, because the movie is a new release..THE SESSION IS SOLD OUT. Why is it an option to even click on it if it is full?

You then have to go through the whole procedure again.

Why can't they print on the drop down list X seats remaining?

The Accoms websites like booking.com can do it. "Hurry, last room still available" - though I suspect that's a sham and a rant for another day.

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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2019, 11:07:58 am »
I'm not going to see it because of the last Star Wars movie, it was such a turkey that I'm not going to risk my time and cash on another one.
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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2019, 11:42:58 am »
I always go to cinema on a week day morning about three weeks after the film is released. Get the whole place to myself so I can pick a seat, chew loudly and fart as much as I want.

Matters less if it’s a turkey then. But it’s Star Wars - what do you expect? The whole series runs like it was written from the dictation by a 5 year old of night terrors of someone snooting coke off the ass crack of a hooker.
 

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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2019, 11:59:22 am »
After Disney took over , the movies have become boring and "Too decent"

I'm skipping too

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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2019, 12:01:07 pm »
THE SESSION IS SOLD OUT. Why is it an option to even click on it if it is full?
Ah, but is it sold out? These days concert and cinema web sites do weird things with the seating, indicating the whole place has sold out, when many of the seats just haven't been released for sale. I don't know what this is supposed to achieve. It might make the event look more popular than it is, and build up some buzz, but many people will just go away thinking they missed out. I recently went to a concert that appeared to be sold out months in advance when I first tried to buy tickets. However I went back to the web site some time later and was able to buy tickets, even in the better parts of the theatre. A few checks after successfully buying, to see what was going on, showed decreasing and increasing amounts of seats still available. The actual event was pretty much full, so they did managed to genuinely sell out. Ticket selling is an old game, so I assume the practices being used have proven successful, but they puzzle me.
 

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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2019, 12:03:35 pm »
After Disney took over , the movies have become boring and "Too decent"
Disney is so messed up they took one of the most successful stage shows ever - cats - and turned it into one of the few movies ever to be getting zero stars in numerous reviews. That takes real talent.
 
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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2019, 12:06:36 pm »
I saw cats here years ago. Totally agree. The trailer of the new Disney version is dire in comparison. One trick pony Disney are.
 

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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #7 on: December 21, 2019, 04:02:19 pm »
The original Star Wars® movie was a self contained story with a begining, middle and end. All prequels and sequels are just fragments of this story. There's no new big ideas like a Death Star®, a Light Saber®, two sun sunsets® and dressing like a Wookie® on Halloween®.  It's permutations on existing characters, locations and time-lines. As the CGI becomes ever more impressive, so the story concept... flatlines.

This is not the point. Star Wars® is not art it's a f®anchise. All of those associated merchandising options including toys, games and Comic Con®, make a fortune for LucasArts®. Who then get to invest in bringing us even more of the same f®anchise.

Parents, oh what festive joy, another set of Lego Star Wars® minifigs® on Amazon® to add to your kids existing Indiana Jones® and Harry Potter® minifigs®.
 

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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #8 on: December 21, 2019, 04:13:57 pm »
I see a lot of dumb silly treads, ugly schematics and overpriced crap every saturday
Is it real world or I`m so evil ?
 

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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #9 on: December 21, 2019, 06:49:32 pm »
The original Star Wars® movie was a self contained story with a begining, middle and end. All prequels and sequels are just fragments of this story. There's no new big ideas like a Death Star®, a Light Saber®, two sun sunsets® and dressing like a Wookie® on Halloween®.  It's permutations on existing characters, locations and time-lines. As the CGI becomes ever more impressive, so the story concept... flatlines.

This is not the point. Star Wars® is not art it's a f®anchise. All of those associated merchandising options including toys, games and Comic Con®, make a fortune for LucasArts®. Who then get to invest in bringing us even more of the same f®anchise.

Parents, oh what festive joy, another set of Lego Star Wars® minifigs® on Amazon® to add to your kids existing Indiana Jones® and Harry Potter® minifigs®.

   Nails it! This post gets my vote as Post of the Month.
 
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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #10 on: December 21, 2019, 06:57:05 pm »
I see a lot of dumb silly treads, ugly schematics and overpriced crap every saturday
Is it real world or I`m so evil ?

I thought you started all them?  :-DD
 
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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2019, 08:36:09 pm »
I realized a few years ago that I just don't enjoy the experience of going out to a movie anymore. Cost aside, the seats are less comfortable than my sofa at home, I have no control over my environment, I have to deal with crowds and lines, noisy children, people messing with their mobile phones and all manner of other stuff. I finally sold off some movie gift cards I had accumulated over the years when I realized I hadn't gone out to a movie since 2015.

Then there is the fact that it's almost impossible to find anything I want to go see anymore. It's all a mindless sea of reboots, remakes and franchise sequels. I'll always have a soft spot for the original Star Wars movie, then the two early sequels I consider ok but not great. The more modern prequels have been mediocre to awful and it's only going downhill as Disney milks it for everything they can. I can't quite put a finger on why but there is something about Disney movies I just don't like and never really have. Even when I was a kid I was not really into Disney.
 
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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2019, 08:50:16 pm »
I can't quite put a finger on why but there is something about Disney movies I just don't like and never really have. Even when I was a kid I was not really into Disney.

I think the same, but, The Jungle Book was very good. :-+
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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2019, 11:28:14 pm »

fwiw if anyone missed out on Starship Troopers, it's well worth a watch and still holds up today,
better than a lot of todays sci-fi ordeals 

The first 'Starship Troopers' and 'Starship Troopers 3: Marauder' are the ones to go for, and buckle up!  8) 

'Starship Troopers 2: Hero of the Federation' is ok and watchable, but the original main cast/actors aren't in it,
and TBH doesn't pump as well for me in comparison.. EMMV

Then there's the Riddick/Pitch Black movies starring Vin Diesel, nothing shabby about those, kickass all the way   :popcorn:

Tom Cruise has some goodies too: Oblivion, Edge Of Tomorrow, Minority Report, all well done  :-+


Back on topique: I will watch Rise of Skywalker, to ensure I'm done with this series/franchise/whatever of Star Was,

and revisit the original Star Wars trilogy on DVD or Bluray on occasion.. for the real deal   :clap:

 

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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2019, 12:15:06 am »
Rather liked Oblivion  :-+
 

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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2019, 02:32:18 am »
I always go to cinema on a week day morning about three weeks after the film is released. Get the whole place to myself so I can pick a seat, chew loudly and fart as much as I want.

Matters less if it’s a turkey then. But it’s Star Wars - what do you expect? The whole series runs like it was written from the dictation by a 5 year old of night terrors of someone snooting coke off the ass crack of a hooker.


I can understand why you'd want the cinema all to yourself whilst indulging in your hookers and blow habit.

I don't mind a packed cinema despite the drawbacks I look at it as increasing my chances of survival in case of surprise ninjas.

It's just that there are a few random empty seats scattered across multiple sessions and days and unfortunately the website fails to present them in a concise way enough for my to tell them to take my money.

Airlines do it. Cruise lines do it with last minute cabins.
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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2019, 02:36:14 am »
THE SESSION IS SOLD OUT. Why is it an option to even click on it if it is full?
Ah, but is it sold out? These days concert and cinema web sites do weird things with the seating, indicating the whole place has sold out, when many of the seats just haven't been released for sale. I don't know what this is supposed to achieve. It might make the event look more popular than it is, and build up some buzz, but many people will just go away thinking they missed out. I recently went to a concert that appeared to be sold out months in advance when I first tried to buy tickets. However I went back to the web site some time later and was able to buy tickets, even in the better parts of the theatre. A few checks after successfully buying, to see what was going on, showed decreasing and increasing amounts of seats still available. The actual event was pretty much full, so they did managed to genuinely sell out. Ticket selling is an old game, so I assume the practices being used have proven successful, but they puzzle me.

There was that vblogger who had problems getting tickets for the Solo movie and when he sat down there were a half a dozen other peeps.

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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2019, 02:41:42 am »
The original Star Wars® movie was a self contained story with a beginning, middle and end. All prequels and sequels are just fragments of this story. There's no new big ideas like a Death Star®, a Light Saber®, two sun sunsets® and dressing like a Wookie® on Halloween®.  It's permutations on existing characters, locations and time-lines. As the CGI becomes ever more impressive, so the story concept... flatlines.

This is not the point. Star Wars® is not art it's a f®anchise. All of those associated merchandising options including toys, games and Comic Con®, make a fortune for LucasArts®. Who then get to invest in bringing us even more of the same f®anchise.

Parents, oh what festive joy, another set of Lego Star Wars® minifigs® on Amazon® to add to your kids existing Indiana Jones® and Harry Potter® minifigs®.

Lucas not showing up to the premiere was the biggest tell. No lame excuse such as "I had to go do my hair" or something. Nothing.


Or.
Did.
He? ...


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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #18 on: December 22, 2019, 06:44:42 am »
...Once a year I go to the cinema, not really a flick fan. Only go for the experience. Nice big screen, sit there with my drink and popcorn. Nice big gold lounge seat...


Hope you are not noisy.

I don't go to cinemas, except Gold Class which tends to have a better class of patrons rather than those who attend a regular cinema. Some people lack respect for others in cinemas, especially those with loud lolly or chip bags. Mobile phone addicts annoy me too.

At a regular cinema during a quiet film called Gravity, some prick next to me slurped noisily with his frozen coke for 20 minutes, then crinkled lolly bags for 10 minutes, then moved onto searching around for bloody popcorn :popcorn: with his right hand going up and down continuously to get the next piece of popcorn (well, I assume that was what he was doing). When more ice melted in his frozen coke, he started slurping again louder than ever.... sluuurrrpppp! I swapped seats and the mongrel just went at it louder, clearly to annoy me. I then lost it and told him where he can go. He ignored me and kept at it. I was tempted to :box: his lights out.

One another occasion some old bastard next to me would grunt or make a "hah" sound when anyone said anything in the film. I noticed the woman next to him was also a grunter. I should have given them a free frozen coke containing battery acid to burn out their vocal cords. The grunt family were the last straw... I do not attend a normal cinemas, even if I got free tickets. It is better for all concerned if I don't attend. Unless...

A technical solution to this problem is if the cinema transmits the audio in Bluetooth and sensitive patrons can use noise cancelling headphones if they wish. Now there's an idea!
 

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« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2019, 07:45:41 am »
...Once a year I go to the cinema, not really a flick fan. Only go for the experience. Nice big screen, sit there with my drink and popcorn. Nice big gold lounge seat...


Hope you are not noisy.

I don't go to cinemas, except Gold Class which tends to have a better class of patrons rather than those who attend a regular cinema. Some people lack respect for others in cinemas, especially those with loud lolly or chip bags. Mobile phone addicts annoy me too.

At a regular cinema during a quiet film called Gravity, some prick next to me slurped noisily with his frozen coke for 20 minutes, then crinkled lolly bags for 10 minutes, then moved onto searching around for bloody popcorn :popcorn: with his right hand going up and down continuously to get the next piece of popcorn (well, I assume that was what he was doing). When more ice melted in his frozen coke, he started slurping again louder than ever.... sluuurrrpppp! I swapped seats and the mongrel just went at it louder, clearly to annoy me. I then lost it and told him where he can go. He ignored me and kept at it. I was tempted to :box: his lights out.

One another occasion some old bastard next to me would grunt or make a "hah" sound when anyone said anything in the film. I noticed the woman next to him was also a grunter. I should have given them a free frozen coke containing battery acid to burn out their vocal cords. The grunt family were the last straw... I do not attend a normal cinemas, even if I got free tickets. It is better for all concerned if I don't attend. Unless...

A technical solution to this problem is if the cinema transmits the audio in Bluetooth and sensitive patrons can use noise cancelling headphones if they wish. Now there's an idea!

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« Reply #20 on: December 22, 2019, 12:57:41 pm »
Had not heard that song in 45 years. They used to play it on the 5th Floor at Myer Bourke St Store in 1974 when I worked part time in the Children's Shoes Dept when I was a high school student. Did anyone there listen to the lyrics? Incidentally, besides being an electronics engineer, I am also a trained children's shows fitter :wtf:.
 

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« Reply #21 on: December 22, 2019, 01:19:44 pm »
Had not heard that song in 45 years. They used to play it on the 5th Floor at Myer Bourke St Store in 1974 when I worked part time in the Children's Shoes Dept when I was a high school student. Did anyone there listen to the lyrics? Incidentally, besides being an electronics engineer, I am also a trained children's shoes fitter :wtf:.

There are worser songs they could have aired from the band's playlist.. "Why don't you all.. Why don't you all.."

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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2019, 02:28:11 pm »
The Mandalorian is the best thing (so far) to happen since Rogue One.

The rest of the movies have been various shades of crap (Although the Solo movie had its moments, but meh overall)
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« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2019, 12:03:43 am »
Would not know about the Mandalorian as not been released in UK yet.  :wtf:  But if the reviews are anything to go by it should be worth the wait.

Rogue One was probably my second or third favourite Star Wars film of all time, a superb piece of filmmaking and not at all what I expected.

I remember the hairs standing up on my neck while watching it and my memory flicking back to watching the original series when I was just a nipper with my mother in the cinema.

Incidentally, does anyone else wish we could go back to the days of ushers monitoring the films and whacking anyone who breathed a little loudly on the back of the head with a large stick before ejecting them from the film.

People these days have no respect, if you are not getting treated to a nose full of the feet of the git behind you as he rests them on your shoulder, he is trying to see if he can move you forward a few rows by persistently kicking the back of your seat while holding a conversation about what he would like for his lunch the next day.

Hence why I have a projector onto a 180” screen and a pretty kicking Kef 5.1 surround system, most of the time I would rather wait for BluRay releases and watch at home with a few beers.  :popcorn:
 
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« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2019, 01:17:22 am »
Hence why I have a projector onto a 180” screen and a pretty kicking Kef 5.1 surround system, most of the time I would rather wait for BluRay releases and watch at home with a few beers.  :popcorn:

Same, I got me a 115" screen and 7.1 surround. I'll get around to calibrating the projector one day...
180" diagonal is like 4m across, you got a big screen there....

The good thing about Japan is the theaters are practically silent even when full.
Although it was weird watching Deadpool, only me and a couple other foreigners were actually laughing as the crappy jokes on screen. :D
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« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2019, 03:54:12 am »
Twas a good movie!  I suggest it if you can find the chance  :)
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« Reply #26 on: December 25, 2019, 08:23:21 am »
fwiw if anyone missed out on Starship Troopers, it's well worth a watch and still holds up today,
better than a lot of todays sci-fi ordeals 
The first 'Starship Troopers' and 'Starship Troopers 3: Marauder' are the ones to go for, and buckle up!  8) 
'Starship Troopers 2: Hero of the Federation' is ok and watchable, but the original main cast/actors aren't in it,
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I always go to cinema on a week day morning about three weeks after the film is released. Get the whole place to myself so I can pick a seat, chew loudly and fart as much as I want.
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« Reply #27 on: December 25, 2019, 02:03:39 pm »
all right mate. Calm down it's Christmas.
 
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« Reply #28 on: December 25, 2019, 06:14:49 pm »
For those who decided to skip, here is the spoiler ...  >:D

Emperor Palpatine still alive and more powerful than ever, Riley and Kylo in love, she gets pregnant and made Kylo turned against the dark side. In the past even Yoda the most powerful Jedi, couldn't beat the emperor as he was so strong, so did Kylo & Riley, as both even with their light sabers skill & force power, simply were too weak to beat him, but eventually the emperor was instantly killed and destroyed by the super duper baby in Riley's womb, just by pointing her belly button to him, the end and all live happily ever after.


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« Reply #29 on: December 25, 2019, 08:00:26 pm »
Star Wars is like every big budget kid movie made, today. It's tailored for export to China. That's mostly who will watch this garbage.

Hollywood doesn't captivate Americans, anymore. The only reasons we watched Adam Sandler's last movie is because it was free on Netflix.

At least Hollywood is decreasing the China trade deficit, now.
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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #30 on: December 25, 2019, 10:02:28 pm »
Star Wars is like every big budget kid movie made, today. It's tailored for export to China. That's mostly who will watch this garbage.

Hollywood doesn't captivate Americans, anymore. The only reasons we watched Adam Sandler's last movie is because it was free on Netflix.

At least Hollywood is decreasing the China trade deficit, now.

A Youtube commenters/reviewers (left foot media) suggested, after seeing it, waiting for TROS to show up in your free movie queue on which ever streaming platform you have.

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« Reply #32 on: December 25, 2019, 11:33:52 pm »
For those who decided to skip, here is the spoiler ...  >:D

Emperor Palpatine still alive and more powerful than ever, Riley and Kylo in love, she gets pregnant and made Kylo turned against the dark side. In the past even Yoda the most powerful Jedi, couldn't beat the emperor as he was so strong, so did Kylo & Riley, as both even with their light sabers skill & force power, simply were too weak to beat him, but eventually the emperor was instantly killed and destroyed by the super duper baby in Riley's womb, just by pointing her belly button to him, the end and all live happily ever after.

I am glad I never ever watched a single Star Wars episode.
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« Reply #33 on: December 26, 2019, 12:54:01 am »
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« Reply #34 on: December 26, 2019, 04:51:11 am »
i found out bloody rey (ridley daisy) is grand doter of palpatine the sith
thats terrible

Yeah. Hard to fap to now.

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« Reply #35 on: December 26, 2019, 04:53:56 am »
i found out bloody rey (ridley daisy) is grand doter of palpatine the sith
thats terrible
I realised she was a bad actor the moment I saw her.  :)
 
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« Reply #37 on: December 26, 2019, 10:50:16 am »
i found out bloody rey (ridley daisy) is grand doter of palpatine the sith
thats terrible

Yeah. Hard to fap to now.

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Hahahahaha I just sprayed coffee everywhere reading that  :-DD
 
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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #38 on: December 26, 2019, 07:04:47 pm »
I'msad to say that the best thing to happen to Star Wars
since the original 3 episodes was Spaceballs...,
...now if I could only get my VHS player to fire up.
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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #39 on: December 26, 2019, 07:55:20 pm »
I dont like movies, where the director has a political agenda, and feels like they need to spoon-feed their audience it. In your face style, whether you want it or not. Not at all. Doesnt matter if it is a Star Wars, Ghostbusters, Doctor Who, or any of my favorite film franchises. Or Marvel movies. I'm just going to watch it 3 years from now on Netflix, and give it a thumbs down, or borrow a Bluray copy somewhere, but I'm not going to pay for brainwashing.

Disney is huge on politics. They try to get people at the early years, when they are the easiest to target. Whether I agree with their agenda or not, doesnt really matter, because I find it disgusting and wrong. I dare the time, when (if?) I have to take my kids to the cinema.
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« Reply #40 on: December 26, 2019, 08:04:53 pm »
I dont like movies, where the director has a political agenda, and feels like they need to spoon-feed their audience it. In your face stile, whether you want it or not. Not at all. Doesnt matter if it is a Star Wars, Ghostbusters, Doctor Who, or any of my favorite film franchises. Or Marvel movies. I'm just going to watch it 3 years from now on Netflix, and give it a thumbs down, or borrow a Bluray copy somewhere, but I'm not going to pay for brainwashing.

Disney is huge on politics. They try to get people at the early years, when they are the easiest to target. Whether I agree with their agenda or not, doesnt really matter, because I find it disgusting and wrong. I dare the time, when (if?) I have to take my kids to the cinema.

Turkish films are very good nowadays, the only problem is you have to know turkish. >:D
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« Reply #41 on: December 26, 2019, 08:29:23 pm »



  LOL!  I liked that better than I liked the last Star Wars movie!
 
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« Reply #42 on: December 26, 2019, 08:38:24 pm »

I am glad I never ever watched a single Star Wars episode.

  You have to have seen the original "back in the day" to appreciate how original and innovative it actually was.   Since then, well "not so much" and that's putting it mildly.
 
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« Reply #43 on: December 26, 2019, 08:51:52 pm »
I'msad to say that the best thing to happen to Star Wars
since the original 3 episodes was Spaceballs...,



Fun fact. Mel Brooks sent the script over to George Lucas with a note saying that if there's anything in there you don't like, let me know.

George not only sent the script back, but didn't even read it. He said he wanted to watch the finished movie like everyone else. "I trust you. I saw Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein."

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...now if I could only get my VHS player to fire up.

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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #44 on: December 27, 2019, 12:06:53 am »
I enjoy listening to a podcast called HelloInternet and they put out a special edition where they talk about RoS. They are long time Star Wars fans and I think talk about it in interesting detail.

Warning it is entirely filled with SPOILERS. See it first before listening if necessary. The podcast isn't cast to put you off going if you're wavering or not an authority on the canon.

http://www.hellointernet.fm/podcast/2019/12/25/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-hello-internet-christmas-special
 
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« Reply #45 on: December 28, 2019, 02:00:47 am »
This guy went back for a second beating..    :rant:

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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #46 on: December 28, 2019, 09:02:34 am »
I'll wait till the hype is done and wade trough a TROS DVD or bluray at a much later date,
at home or at friends and avoid the cinematards with their phones, drivel chat, giggles, stinking sneakers,
and avoid imperial entanglements temptation on my part, to indulge in DIY ushering..again  >:D

and also because The Mandalorian as recommended above, is kicking serious ass !  :clap:

so why settle for over-acting smothered with CGI and 'make it up as you go' script aka TROS  :-//
 
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« Reply #47 on: December 29, 2019, 12:40:28 am »
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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #48 on: December 29, 2019, 03:14:12 am »
There's only one thing MORE utterly idiotic and wasteful than taking movies too seriously, and obsessing over them, and that's starting internet "discussions" about them.

It's fiction. It's entertainment. It's like eating a chocolate bar - go and buy one, eat it, then move on. No one gives a shit, and if they do, well...  :palm:
 
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« Reply #49 on: December 29, 2019, 03:50:49 am »
There's only one thing MORE utterly idiotic and wasteful than taking movies too seriously, and obsessing over them, and that's starting internet "discussions" about them.

It's fiction. It's entertainment. It's like eating a chocolate bar - go and buy one, eat it, then move on. No one gives a shit, and if they do, well...  :palm:

I had to go back and check this post wasn't from the same person who started another thread on "Has pop music lost its fun?".

 
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« Reply #50 on: December 29, 2019, 03:59:37 am »
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« Reply #51 on: December 29, 2019, 09:50:10 pm »
There's only one thing MORE utterly idiotic and wasteful than taking movies too seriously, and obsessing over them, and that's starting internet "discussions" about them.

It's fiction. It's entertainment. It's like eating a chocolate bar - go and buy one, eat it, then move on. No one gives a shit, and if they do, well...  :palm:
Except the chocolate bar INC made 1 billion USD in a week, and buys ALL the other companies who sell chocolate bar. The only one you can get has bullshit in it. And you really want the chocolate bar with the cranberry, but someone thinks that the bullshit bar is better for you.
 
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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #52 on: December 30, 2019, 02:54:01 am »
There's only one thing MORE utterly idiotic and wasteful than taking movies too seriously, and obsessing over them, and that's starting internet "discussions" about them.

It's fiction. It's entertainment. It's like eating a chocolate bar - go and buy one, eat it, then move on. No one gives a shit, and if they do, well...  :palm:


Hey it's holiday chill time (at 40C.. :o) so I'll bite  ;) 

No one here afaik is taking anything too seriously,
one does not have to be a hard core Star Wars fan kitted out in Stormtrooper or Darth rigs to enjoy the movie


internet 'discussions' here about sci-fi shows got me hooked up with great shows I was not aware of from members here, and vice versa

and who wants to blow cash on the latest (turkey alert   :-//)  franchise movie,

when with a tip off, it can wait at the back of the 'well, I suppose I better watch it and say I did..and move on..'  queue   :popcorn:

FYI: internet 'discussions' here about electronics are not too shabby either   :clap: :clap:

Hey, I hope I'm not feeding any LLort here  :scared:

 

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« Reply #53 on: December 30, 2019, 10:28:41 am »
You have to have seen the original "back in the day" to appreciate how original and innovative it actually was.
I've always been an eager SF devourer, and, after more than 50 years, still am.

I remember going to see the original Star Wars (I think that's what's called now "Ep. IV, A new hope") when it came out in '77, with my father, another SF aficionado.

I really had great expectations.

My disappointment was so bitter I've never again touched the saga to this day. :--

Having watched it after Solaris and 2001, I really cannot see how it can be considered original and innovative.
SFX might have been good, for the time - I did not care, that was never SF, more like a western with spaceships. :blah:

I'msad to say that the best thing to happen to Star Wars
since the original 3 episodes was Spaceballs...,
Spaceballs is a masterpiece. We still watch it every now and then, and enjoy it as the first time.

Looking at Lucas's writing/directing history, I see that I might have a problem with him.
The only thing I like in the list is THX1138 - don't get me started on IJ...
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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #55 on: December 31, 2019, 12:29:35 am »
You have to have seen the original "back in the day" to appreciate how original and innovative it actually was.
I've always been an eager SF devourer, and, after more than 50 years, still am.

I remember going to see the original Star Wars (I think that's what's called now "Ep. IV, A new hope") when it came out in '77, with my father, another SF aficionado.

I really had great expectations.

My disappointment was so bitter I've never again touched the saga to this day. :--

Having watched it after Solaris and 2001, I really cannot see how it can be considered original and innovative.
SFX might have been good, for the time - I did not care, that was never SF, more like a western with spaceships. :blah:
I saw the UK cinema trailers for the original Star Wars, and it looked liked a really bad Solaris or 2001. I didn't watch it. Several years later I saw it when it reached TV, and realised the problem was just that the marketing was braindead. The actual movie was just fun hockum, are worked quite well at that level.
I'msad to say that the best thing to happen to Star Wars
since the original 3 episodes was Spaceballs...,
Spaceballs is a masterpiece. We still watch it every now and then, and enjoy it as the first time.
Masterpiece might be an exaggeration. Blazing Saddles and Young Frankenstein are masterpieces, Spaceballs is really good.
Looking at Lucas's writing/directing history, I see that I might have a problem with him.
The only thing I like in the list is THX1138 - don't get me started on IJ...
I suspect Goerge Lucas is another Ridley Scott - someone who sometimes made excellent films because they were lucky enough to work with some very talented people on those occasions.
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« Reply #56 on: December 31, 2019, 07:50:47 am »
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Emperor Palpatine's Return in Rise Of Skywalker was Kathleen Kennedy's Idea - Of Course


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« Reply #58 on: January 02, 2020, 10:30:02 am »
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Will Disney Bring George Lucas Back To Save Star Wars?
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« Reply #59 on: January 03, 2020, 03:09:01 am »
Answered another evolutionary question is.

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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #60 on: January 03, 2020, 03:27:34 am »
"Disney allegedly sabotaged Abrams and edited the film behind his back, making it even worse in the process."

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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #61 on: January 03, 2020, 04:36:29 am »
Just watched this with the family.  Some observations.

1.  Theaters in the US have converted to reclining lounge seats and assigned seating to attempt to fight the move to watching at home.  This, combined with better janitorial work has made the movie experience much more pleasant.  Even though I have a very large screen TV and good sound system there is still a distinct different and I believe positive experience in a theater.

2.  This film will never win any awards for thoughtfulness, plot development or any of that.  The story bounces around and even for a sci-fi flick doesn't have any respect for laws of physics or any other laws.  Without giving anything away it is really, really hard to imagine an interstellar civilization that mixes animal labor for pack animals with interstellar flight. 

3.  Given all that there are some stunning graphics, lots of action and enough variety in aliens to provide some reality.  Not all of them have two arms, two legs, a head on top with two eyes above a nose which is above a mouth.

I enjoyed it, but wouldn't place it very high on my all time list of favorites and I wouldn't recommend it for someone who didn't have somewhat of a soft spot for the Star Wars series.  Movies like Forbidden Planet and Dune are far, far better.
 
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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #62 on: January 03, 2020, 04:43:50 am »
Glad you enjoyed it.

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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #63 on: January 03, 2020, 03:43:36 pm »
Star Wars Rise of Skywalker: The Lucas and J.J. Abrams Cut, and Further Turmoil Behind The Scenes

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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #64 on: January 16, 2020, 09:31:40 am »
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Rise of Skywalker Finally Crosses Billion Dollars But Loses to Rogue One

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Re: Rant. Why I'm not going to see Rise of Skywalker
« Reply #65 on: January 19, 2020, 01:57:47 am »
all right mate. Calm down it's Christmas.

You forgot to add the passive-aggressive, permanently disgruntled Brit emoji. 😂
 

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