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Re: RBMK nuclear reactor simulator down load
« Reply #75 on: December 06, 2020, 07:52:52 pm »
Believe me: we don't have the rhetoric of war with anyone. Of course, our country has some interests abroad and there is a demonstration of force. Unfortunately, such is the world. When the Soviet Union collapsed, we became completely open and formed a great friendship in the United States, but at this time there was poverty and devastation inside the country. We didn't like it.  :)
Chechen Wars (it was A First and a Second too), was, I think the most 'peaceful' and have the most 'peaceful' pictures: (a first attachment)
Grozny (capital of Chechnya) was totally devastated.
And whose Crimea is now?  :palm:
You do know that there is even such a term appeared: 'победобесие' (a 'victory rage') - illustration is at a second attachment.
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Re: RBMK nuclear reactor simulator down load
« Reply #76 on: December 06, 2020, 08:18:47 pm »
is there anything weird about the load impedance that a giant radar presents to a reactor powered system vs a conventional load that might require the reactor to run unsafely? like horrific power factor
 

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Re: RBMK nuclear reactor simulator down load
« Reply #77 on: December 08, 2020, 02:50:02 pm »
There were only suggestions but any proved fact that it caused any bad power interference.
I don't remember any evidence about dangerously large load variations on 26/04/1986.
There are several similar stations, and they don't make anything weird onto the power system. Some of them are situated far from power plants.
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Re: RBMK nuclear reactor simulator down load
« Reply #78 on: December 12, 2020, 02:27:14 am »
Believe me: we don't have the rhetoric of war with anyone. Of course, our country has some interests abroad and there is a demonstration of force. Unfortunately, such is the world. When the Soviet Union collapsed, we became completely open and formed a great friendship in the United States, but at this time there was poverty and devastation inside the country. We didn't like it.  :)
Chechen Wars (it was A First and a Second too), was, I think the most 'peaceful' and have the most 'peaceful' pictures: (a first attachment)
Grozny (capital of Chechnya) was totally devastated.
And whose Crimea is now?  :palm:
You do know that there is even such a term appeared: 'победобесие' (a 'victory rage') - illustration is at a second attachment.

Leave the stupid khokhlosrach for your TV shows...  :)
Find on Vkontakte or Odnoklassniki 10, 100, 1000 people in Chechnya and Crimea - ask them.
You're just a young fool who doesn't understand what war is.
And sorry for my English.
 

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Re: RBMK nuclear reactor simulator down load
« Reply #79 on: December 12, 2020, 03:19:00 am »
Leave the stupid khokhlosrach for your TV shows...  :)
Find on Vkontakte or Odnoklassniki 10, 100, 1000 people in Chechnya and Crimea - ask them.
You're just a young fool who doesn't understand what war is.
Chill out dear war expert. We all know what the Stockholm syndrome is. No need to ask hostages, whether they like the hostage takers. Especially, when the hostages are held at gunpoint. And there are well documented cases, where residents of those territories where thrown in jail, murdered or disappeared, for simply expressing discontent with the regime. Especially the social media platforms infested by KGB and local militia agents are suspect.

PS. Continue enjoying cheese surrogates made of palm oil. After all, the self-imposed sanctions came in one package with annexation of Crimea.
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Re: RBMK nuclear reactor simulator down load
« Reply #80 on: December 12, 2020, 03:20:21 am »
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Re: RBMK nuclear reactor simulator down load
« Reply #81 on: December 12, 2020, 03:48:36 am »
Leave the stupid khokhlosrach for your TV shows...  :)
Find on Vkontakte or Odnoklassniki 10, 100, 1000 people in Chechnya and Crimea - ask them.
You're just a young fool who doesn't understand what war is.
Chill out dear war expert. We all know what the Stockholm syndrome is. No need to ask hostages, whether they like the hostage takers. Especially, when the hostages are held at gunpoint. And there are well documented cases, where residents of those territories where thrown in jail, murdered or disappeared, for simply expressing discontent with the regime. Especially the social media platforms infested by KGB and local militia agents are suspect.

PS. Continue enjoying cheese surrogates made of palm oil. After all, the self-imposed sanctions came in one package with annexation of Crimea.

I do not know how long you have been in the United States  :D and on what basis you draw conclusions about the hostages, but let me believe my eyes. I have been to Crimea and Abkhazia several times, imagine: no one spoke to me at gunpoint. If you visit Crimea, many people will tell you about the problems - they are there and obvious, they do not hide them, but no one regrets what happened and does not want to go back.

And recently, russian troops stopped the war in Karabakh. Who do you think the hostages are: Armenians or Azerbaijanis?  :)

Yes, also: bears with a bottle of vodka, a balalaika and an AK-74 do not go in Russia: look at hundreds of thousands of web cameras all over Russia.  ;D
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Re: RBMK nuclear reactor simulator down load
« Reply #82 on: December 12, 2020, 01:28:11 pm »
What happened to renowned Soviet education system? Did Putin destroyed that too? When I was a kid, school students could easily tell Abkhazia from Chenen republic. They did not know a thing about economics or civics, but studied Geography and AK-47 handling and sharpshooting skills in middle school.

As for evidence - I do not need your eyewitness reports. There is plenty information about human rights violations in Chenya and Ukrainian territories occupied by Russia.
 

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Re: RBMK nuclear reactor simulator down load
« Reply #83 on: December 12, 2020, 05:20:14 pm »
I have already written to you, probably... I sympathize with your feelings. You have the right to your opinion, even if it is blatantly false. Russia is not a paradise, not all people are righteous in it, so you can always find offenses, this is obvious. But you will have to accept the decision of the people in Crimea, Abkhazia and Chechnya, too. And now in Karabakh. Your good knowledge of the Soviet past clearly shows your "American roots" - americans don't have such a stupid scoop..  :)
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Re: RBMK nuclear reactor simulator down load
« Reply #84 on: December 12, 2020, 06:08:15 pm »
how does this cheese substitute taste like? i am actually interested in that

is that a shortage substitute product?
 

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Re: RBMK nuclear reactor simulator down load
« Reply #85 on: December 12, 2020, 07:07:01 pm »
how does this cheese substitute taste like?

If you've eaten a cheap American supermarket frozen pizza you have probably already tasted it, it's a common substitution for actual cheese at the bottom end of the market.

Vis: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Totino-s-Bacon-and-Pepperoni-Party-Pizza-10-oz/160641811

Ingredients: ... Imitation Mozzarella Cheese (Water, Palm Oil, Rennet Casein, Modified Potato Starch, Vegetable Oil, Potato Starch, Sodium Aluminum Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Salt, Citric Acid, Potassium Sorbate [Preservative], Sodium Phosphate, Sodium Citrate, Titanium Dioxide [Artificial Color], Maltodextrin, Magnesium Oxide, Zinc Oxide, Riboflavin, Vitamin A Palmitate, Vitamin B6, Vitamin B12),

Yes, that terrifying list of ingredients is just the imitation cheese.
Anybody got a syringe I can use to squeeze the magic smoke back into this?
 

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Re: RBMK nuclear reactor simulator down load
« Reply #86 on: December 12, 2020, 07:15:24 pm »

Ingredients: ... Imitation Mozzarella Cheese (Water, Palm Oil, Rennet Casein, Modified Potato Starch, Vegetable Oil, Potato Starch, Sodium Aluminum Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Salt, Citric Acid, Potassium Sorbate [Preservative], Sodium Phosphate, Sodium Citrate, Titanium Dioxide [Artificial Color], Maltodextrin, Magnesium Oxide, Zinc Oxide, Riboflavin, Vitamin A Palmitate, Vitamin B6, Vitamin B12),

Yes, that terrifying list of ingredients is just the imitation cheese.

Do terminators already go to pizzerias in America? Is this a menu for them?  :scared:
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Re: RBMK nuclear reactor simulator down load
« Reply #87 on: December 12, 2020, 07:42:53 pm »
how does this cheese substitute taste like?

If you've eaten a cheap American supermarket frozen pizza you have probably already tasted it, it's a common substitution for actual cheese at the bottom end of the market.

Vis: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Totino-s-Bacon-and-Pepperoni-Party-Pizza-10-oz/160641811

Ingredients: ... Imitation Mozzarella Cheese (Water, Palm Oil, Rennet Casein, Modified Potato Starch, Vegetable Oil, Potato Starch, Sodium Aluminum Phosphate, Potassium Chloride, Salt, Citric Acid, Potassium Sorbate [Preservative], Sodium Phosphate, Sodium Citrate, Titanium Dioxide [Artificial Color], Maltodextrin, Magnesium Oxide, Zinc Oxide, Riboflavin, Vitamin A Palmitate, Vitamin B6, Vitamin B12),

Yes, that terrifying list of ingredients is just the imitation cheese.

Well frozen pizza is known to have some kind of phosphate reacted cheese that freezes and melts well. I was not under the impression its a lower cost product but more like a demand to improve the materials frost resistance. As I understand it, frozen pizza made with conventional cheese had problems with consistency with reheating (something like fat separation was happening so you had extra greasy sauce with leathery cheese). Perhaps this has to do with freezer settings.

Maybe I will freeze some mozzarella and see what happens.

I know MRE-pizza prototypes had some kind of soy-cheese thing going on, but that should be another ball game from frozen pizza.

I think in a nut shell
-metal oxides : improves microwaveability of the pizza some how? or decrease UV susceptibility i.e. sunscreen or a thermal conductivity modifier. I know certain foods are optimized for microwave cooking time frames. They might be obsolete as a result of the inverter microwave which has true power level adjustment rather then duty cycle adjustment.. but it does require a brain cell to figure out how to use it. I sure hate the idea of being contaminated a result of stupid people that cannot figure out how to cook or refuse to buy a better appliance (why don't we optimize things for cooking on tire fires while we are at it!)
-phosphates : frost resistance/emulsifier strength increase
-citric acid : better color (I add this to home made pickles along with ascorbic acid), it supposedly decreases yellowing
-potassium chloride : decrease amount of sodium chloride required to make it heart healthier supposedly, may also have something to do with texture, I know people mess with salt levels in home made bread to change how it kneeds and grows I think
-vitamin A : antioxidant (like skin cream), increases shelf life
-b vitamins not sure, maybe decreases lethargy from eating a meal high in fat and carbs without much protein
-oils : modify the frost resistance/behavior, also possibly a good vector to cut cost
-dextrin : not sure, maybe a anti-sag. Perhaps protein can be used instead? (may require more cheese to begin with). To me it screams 'cheese bread'. The pizza already has alot of bread, can you not add more bread some how?


What I would like to know how much of this has to do with industrial cost savings from increasing shelf life PRIOR to sale to stores (i.e. cheaper manufacture) vs making a good pizza for you. I assume it all makes the expiration date longer. I..e how much bulk ingredients are being stored prior to expiration datesbeing stamped on the final product.

I.e. for a jar of pickles, you need 1/10th of a vitamin C tablet roughly, the pills are often 1000mg, you only need about 100mg for a pint of pickles IIRC. So its really not much if you occasionally take vitamins. So if I make 10 jars of pickles the salt is WAY more of a concern then a tablet of vitamin C. (vitamin C, garlic, citric acid and black current leaves).

I wonder if its the case that the frozen pizza ends up having a cheese that is cheaper by requirement rather then by design and it happens to be sell able as a cheese substitute as a side note.


So the question is can you use more real cheese that is some how better fractioned and mixed together to reduce the use of phosphates, starches and see if inverter microwaves eliminate the need to add refractory oxides to food.


Does anyone know what frozen cheese looks like when it is not made under a MBA? ::)
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