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BrianHG:

--- Quote from: coppice on January 28, 2023, 10:03:33 pm ---
--- Quote from: BrianHG on January 28, 2023, 06:29:40 pm --- :palm: How did a tech engineering forum post look at a technical marvel generate a first response being political in nature.

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Because the F35 is not an engineering program, but a political program? Every design decision was based on its political impact.

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Funny, none of my Nasa Apollo videos got this treatment.  Do you think the Apollo moon landing wasn't a political vehicle for the cold war?
coppice:

--- Quote from: BrianHG on January 28, 2023, 10:48:26 pm ---
--- Quote from: coppice on January 28, 2023, 10:03:33 pm ---
--- Quote from: BrianHG on January 28, 2023, 06:29:40 pm --- :palm: How did a tech engineering forum post look at a technical marvel generate a first response being political in nature.

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Because the F35 is not an engineering program, but a political program? Every design decision was based on its political impact.

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Funny, none of my Nasa Apollo videos got this treatment.  Do you think the Apollo moon landing wasn't a political vehicle for the cold war?

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Apollo was a wartime project in an actual war. It was built for a propaganda purpose and succeeded. Why would anyone complain about it? Especially when it was highly inspirational to a generation of engineering minded youngsters.
BrianHG:

--- Quote from: coppice on January 28, 2023, 10:52:04 pm ---
--- Quote from: BrianHG on January 28, 2023, 10:48:26 pm ---
--- Quote from: coppice on January 28, 2023, 10:03:33 pm ---
--- Quote from: BrianHG on January 28, 2023, 06:29:40 pm --- :palm: How did a tech engineering forum post look at a technical marvel generate a first response being political in nature.

--- End quote ---
Because the F35 is not an engineering program, but a political program? Every design decision was based on its political impact.

--- End quote ---
Funny, none of my Nasa Apollo videos got this treatment.  Do you think the Apollo moon landing wasn't a political vehicle for the cold war?

--- End quote ---
Apollo was a wartime project in an actual war. It was built for a propaganda purpose and succeeded. Why would anyone complain about it? Especially when it was highly inspirational to a generation of engineering minded youngsters.

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It was a political decision to put US tax payer dollars to fund it.
What if it failed?  What would we be saying now...
Enough.  No more political BS.
tszaboo:

--- Quote from: wraper on January 28, 2023, 10:01:02 pm ---Jack of all trades, master of none. So much compromises were made for all that super tech, it's super slow for a fighter and cannot even cruise at supersonic speeds.

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So what. Next thing will be that it would loose a dogfight for a F4 or some other irrelevant plane.
It shoots the enemy from the sky before they see the F35. It shoots the T-72  on the ground if someone with the new M5 rifle's pings it with the advanced optics. There is enough of them to destroy the 2nd 3rd largest army at the same time in a week. That's all we need to know about it.
langwadt:

--- Quote from: Infraviolet on January 28, 2023, 09:52:31 pm ---fascinating technically, but the F35 project really has fallen far behind schedule and far above cost. Unfortunately the project has got so big, and has such dreadful (clearly politically planned) elements to it as making all buyers of the F35 reliant on both each other and on the USA for servicing, spares, software updates... that one can't escape politics when discussing it. And the rumour always has been it was designed specifically to be inferior to the (older) F22 raptor (which the USA never sells abroad), so the USA's allies all abandon fighter production programmes of their own and then have a plane that can't beat the USA.

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afaiu those advanced fighters are so expensive to run that to use one someone has to explain why an F16 can't do it
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