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| 2N3055:
--- Quote from: tszaboo on January 29, 2023, 06:15:57 pm --- --- Quote from: coppice on January 29, 2023, 04:54:33 pm --- --- Quote from: imo on January 29, 2023, 04:20:50 pm ---Frankly, I do not understand why the pilots are still sitting there in the F35.. :) You can fly it from your home-office.. --- End quote --- Its easy to do that when nobody is trying to stop you. It turns out to be very hard to keep communication with an air vehicle rock solid when people are trying to stop you. Drones have been working great in situations where the enemy is not very sophisticated. When they are, perhaps its a less effective approach. The approach being sought for next generation pilotless fighters is to make them sufficiently smart that they can act on their own for much of the time, doing more sophisticated things than just avoiding a crash when there is no real time input from the comms links. --- End quote --- Even F18s have direct laser communication with satellites. The only way to block that is with an object in between. Or a cloud, but that's not the point. Why wouldn't have the F35 a pilot in it? I think pilotless aircraft has a place, and they have been sending these aircrafts in when it was cheaper, or there is no air superiority but loosing them is no big deal. In which way would a pilotless aircraft be better? It can pull more Gs. Otherwise that's it, having the pilot is not a drawback. And pulling Gs is not what you do with this aircraft. You fly in, launch some rockets to targets at 30km range. Nobody is shooting at your plane, they don't even know you are there unless you turn on the transponder. There is no dogfight, since it's not the 70s anymore. Not even with a SU-57, since the radar signature of it is so bad, they don't allow them to fly against MIG-29s, or to fly into contested airspace. in fear that a simple manpads will shoot it down. It has similar radar signature than a F-18 except from the front. And then it comes the: "comrade we don't have rokets for the internal bay we fly external yes?" part. --- End quote --- Keyword: latency... |
| coppice:
--- Quote from: tszaboo on January 29, 2023, 06:15:57 pm ---Why wouldn't have the F35 a pilot in it? --- End quote --- Current fighters are built around the size and limitations of a human being. The larger ones are also designed around the size of radar that will be in their nose, but pilotless aircraft might operate in swarms with the radar function offloaded. Get rid of the pilot and you can make cheaper, lighter, stealthier planes that work at stresses no human could cope with. |
| Infraviolet:
So, post #25, ChatGPT has clearly been fed on material which warns of the F35's problems, hence the Su57's victory in its composition... but it forgot that with the state of Russian military logistics today the Su57 would probably have run out of fuel before it could get off the runway. |
| shapirus:
--- Quote from: bigfoot22 on January 28, 2023, 07:06:52 pm ---its still designed to kill people. --- End quote --- which, under certain circumstances, is a good and necessary thing, which, being a weapon, a well-designed military aircraft is required to do with high effectiveness. |
| jfiresto:
--- Quote from: Infraviolet on January 29, 2023, 06:48:12 pm ---So, post #25, ChatGPT has clearly been fed on material which warns of the F35's problems, hence the Su57's victory in its composition... but it forgot that with the state of Russian military logistics today the Su57 would probably have run out of fuel before it could get off the runway. --- End quote --- The actual state or the imagined state? There are two quite different wars being fought. How does it choose? |
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