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Redundant Phones, & corporate Influences!!
madires:
That could be an RSA SecurID.
PlainName:
--- Quote ---Let them provide the hardware.
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My UK bank did that many years ago, providing a kind of card reader affair. On demand you shove the card in, type your PIN and it gives you an 8-digit code to supply to whatever is asking. That's when I stopped using that account for day-to-day stuff - when I'm using a PC I never have my card with me, so it was a big drag to log onto online banking or anything else requiring that thing.
Now, they've done a phone app which basically does the same thing, but instead of the card you use your fingerprint (or, presumably, a PIN if you don't have a finger or reader). Since I nearly always have my phone with me I've started to use that account in anger again.
Security is fine until it becomes intrusive, and then it's just a matter of whether you can find a workaround (negating the point of it) or stop using it (again, defeating the point of it).
Someone:
--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on October 29, 2021, 11:44:03 am ---
--- Quote ---Let them provide the hardware.
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My UK bank did that many years ago, providing a kind of card reader affair. On demand you shove the card in, type your PIN and it gives you an 8-digit code to supply to whatever is asking. That's when I stopped using that account for day-to-day stuff - when I'm using a PC I never have my card with me, so it was a big drag to log onto online banking or anything else requiring that thing.
Now, they've done a phone app which basically does the same thing, but instead of the card you use your fingerprint (or, presumably, a PIN if you don't have a finger or reader). Since I nearly always have my phone with me I've started to use that account in anger again.
Security is fine until it becomes intrusive, and then it's just a matter of whether you can find a workaround (negating the point of it) or stop using it (again, defeating the point of it).
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As the OP states quite clearly, its all convenient if you have some device that you would otherwise need (which you do). Nice to provide options for people, rather than forcing everyone a single method causing hate either way:
A everyone must carry around an additional device when they don't see the point (you complain), or
B everyone must own a recent smartphone with a supported OS (OP complains)
Whats silly is that many of the apps which are being pushed out by companies to secure their platforms are just a standard (RFC 6238) but wrapped up in their branded app. Which might come with some extra functionality convenient for some, but because its an app then locks in end users to specific OS/platforms/versions. If they'd offer the app as a (default) option but make it easy to set up your own code generator if you preferred then most of the problems would disappear.
GlennSprigg:
--- Quote from: Bassman59 on October 28, 2021, 03:40:38 pm ---
--- Quote from: TimFox on October 28, 2021, 03:36:03 pm ---In non-US English-speaking countries, "-quotation marks are nested inside '-quotation marks, while in the US it is typical to nest '-marks inside "-marks.
For example, "He called me a 'Yankee' online", she complained.
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Sure, yeah, but that's not what I'm getting at. Glenn just sprinkles single-quote marks around random words for no apparent reason.
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FIRSTLY, thank you, to the many other people who responded as intended/expected. Like one of 'Eti's responses saying...
"SMS is notoriously insecure for 2FA, whereas app-based "authenticators" are less so (app-arrently)".
That was very helpful, as I've (until now), not even heard of *2FA*. Now I can research further. To certain others, I stated that my Post covered
multiple topics, and even apologized for that, sigh... Was as much about Customers, and Options and more, as well as 'security'.
Now...
"TimFox" at least explained 1 reason, why I might have had quote-marks around the word, 'programmer'.
however, you kept going on about how 'random' (*random*!!) my usage was, and how it making no sense!??
*Others* had nicely pointed out though, that maybe you should be less pedantic about ridiculing me,
(or anyone!), instead of just taking the whole post for what it was, and what was intended !!!
I don't know why I'm bothering here, but I'm a human being, with feelings, and I feel that I have a right to defend
myself, even though I shouldn't *have* to, apart from now *wasting-time* and space on the Forum. However!...
I had explained ages ago, when certain people used to complain, that I do not think that a sentence or paragraph in
posts/replies should have to be grammatically structured, as in a book, or literary work! It's a SHORT description,
purely aimed at getting a brief message across, and including often certain simply key 'highlighted' words/names!
And when I use them, it is NOT *random*, but simply highlighting some of those 'key' words, to gloss over. For that,
I make no apologies, as it is obvious to many others that know me, and not your right to condescension & arrogance!
WORST OF THE WORST though, however, was the simply 'ABOMINAL' rant that "Shock" above, attacked me!!! It's one thing
to ask/mention a downfall of mine or two... and a totally separate thing to go on & on talking about my intelligence,
social standing & mental competence, under the guise of being a 'professional' responder, and being a Moderator??
I say that, because he 'finished' by saying that if I even dare to respond to him, he'll delete it all !! W.T.F. ??
Well my response to 'him' is simply that I feel sorry for him, and how can he even fit hit head through a doorway!!
P.S. dear "Shock". It might make you 'happy' to know that no, I am NOT well, physically, mentally, medically now, after
many decades of useful & intelligent/productive employment, and now left with not much time & very limited capacity.
*Some* people here get that, from what I've said/hinted at for many months, and realize "that's just Glenn"...
I've certainly learned/learnt this year that 'Brain-Power'/knowledge has 'little' to do what is necessary for humans
to 'get-along'. True Understanding & Compassion with Humanity leave the likes of you 'Savant-ly' isolated.
Do with me what you wish, if that 'power' brings you joy. Certain Personal Messages have led to MY joy.
P.S. EDIT...
It seems his comment has been deleted....
PlainName:
Withdrawn: should have been a private message.
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