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MK14:

--- Quote from: xrunner on June 04, 2022, 12:19:13 am ---Didn't we get one of these sorts of "cases" just recently?

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I'm just trying to think of all the ways, it would be useful, for someone to repeatedly make accounts, just to question this kind of problem.

What about a book author, researching into various technical reasons, that could disrupt peoples sleeping pattern?

There does seem to be a theme, where they strongly dislike the neighbor.

I wonder what is really going on?

Question for the OP?
(I know someone already asked), but how come you are living in a (what we call in the UK), business unit.  I.e. Some kind of somewhat large, business building (rather small factory, for 1 to 40 workers, depending on size and stuff), rather than a normal home?

Also, if you live in some kind of business unit.  You kind of have to accept.  That there can be various 'business' related activities, late at night.  Such as security watches, deliveries, and sometimes, noisy machinery in operation.

My understanding is sleep pattern disturbances.  Is a somewhat common medical ailment, that people can suffer from.  Which can have absolutely NOTHING to do with your neighbor.  Unless the medical condition, is some types of mental illness, which makes the ill person, believe that stuff is going on, which is NOT really happening, they just believe that it is.  E.g. Paranoid Schizophrenia.

https://www.sleephealthfoundation.org.au/schizophrenia-and-sleep.html

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4855992/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5614792/


--- Quote ---Schizophrenia is a major psychiatric disorder that has a massive, long-lasting negative impact on the patients as well as society. While positive symptoms (i.e., delusions and hallucinations), negative symptoms (i.e., anhedonia, social withdrawal), and cognitive impairments are traditionally considered the most prominent features of this disorder, the role of sleep and sleep disturbances has gained increasing prominence in clinical practice. Indeed, the vast majority of patients with schizophrenia report sleep abnormalities, which tend to precede illness onset and can predict an acute exacerbation of psychotic symptoms. Furthermore, schizophrenia patients often have a comorbid sleep disorder, including insomnia, obstructive sleep apnea, restless leg syndrome, or periodic limb movement disorder. Despite accumulating data, the links between sleep disorders and schizophrenia have not been thoroughly examined, in part because they are difficult to disentangle, as numerous factors contribute to their comorbidity, including medication status. Additionally, sleep disorders are often not the primary focus of clinicians treating this population, despite studies suggesting that comorbid sleep disorders carry their own unique risks, including worsening of psychotic symptoms and poorer quality of life. There is also limited information about effective management strategies for schizophrenia patients affected by significant sleep disturbances and/or sleep disorders. To begin addressing these issues, the present review will systematically examine the literature on sleep disorders and schizophrenia, focusing on studies related to 1) links between distinct sleep disorders and schizophrenia; 2) risks unique to patients with a comorbid sleep disorder; and 3) and management challenges and strategies.
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jonpaul:
bonjour à tous

Some of the OP long note may have miscommunication as it seems like he is French and not a native English speaker.

The overall setup needs diagrams, maps and photos to understand the situation.

We have seen cases like this in the USA, and they have never been resolved.  Seems like a problem in medical or psychological rather than in electronic or electric area.

If the OP experienced same symptoms when far from his property we could have a clew.

When I was a power engineer I never noticed  symptoms,  working with 55 kV, 12 KW, and medical lasers.

bon courage et bon santé à le OP !

Just the ramblings of an old retired EE

Jon





lxmute:

--- Quote from: ebastler on June 04, 2022, 09:12:10 am ---You have not really described the housing arrangements. Are we talking about semi-detached houses here, with you and the baker (?) living wall-to-wall? Or are these separate, detached houses -- if so, how far apart?

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wall-to-wall, yes. 2x Century-old houses. 2 different electricians have checked everything concerning my installation. Earth & equipotentiality have been tested.


--- Quote from: jonpaul on June 04, 2022, 11:21:13 am ---Seems like a problem in medical or psychological rather than in electronic or electric area.

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In my current problem, as I expect this from any future lawyer in Courthouse, I've done all medical and psychological circuit, Virology, Neurology, Psychology and I've been stated as perfectly healthy and in plain possession of my mind. Furthermore, I don't drink, I don't smoke, I don't do drugs. I run a business for many years with good success.


--- Quote from: jonpaul on June 04, 2022, 11:21:13 am ---an old retired EE

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ok boomer.
I had not the faintest interest in my neighbor before troubles started to happen. It's the 7th baker I have there as a neighbor and never had to complain of any of them. Even that one, worked 10 years there before those troubles started to occur in July 2018. I have talked to him twice about this trouble, and he denied. So I try to record facts of what is coming from the "outside" in my house, and body. Shutting down the power line doesn't change anything. Cutting water, heater doesn't change anything.
When there is no trouble at all, it's periodical, everything's back to normal. If I go streets away, everything's back to normal. If I sleep at a friend's house, everything's back to normal.
Try to rest on a conductive plate powered with 12V AC/10mA for 30 hours and you'll maybe get the feeling.
Nevermind, and eat the pension for which I pay taxes.


and to end up all those stupid rants concerning Weltschmertz and psychology, as requested before,

--- Quote from: IanB on June 04, 2022, 12:50:20 am ---I read your whole long post, but nowhere have you actually said what your problem is?

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I'd just like a module or sensor ref. able to monitor the seeping voltage, that difference of potential at a T time, that invades a room. I'll plug it into a microcontroler.
IanB:
Is it a bakery next to you, as we are supposing? Baking bread?

If so, there there is not much to it. There are big machines that mix the dough, which will have motors making a rumbling noise perhaps. And there are ovens to bake the bread, which will be pretty silent and have no moving parts except maybe some fans.

Could it be you are being disturbed by the sound and activity of people working and operating machines in the early hours of the morning?
abquke:
From the engineering side: If you look for interference, you'll find it.

From the human side: please consider the possibility that you're hearing things that others can't. I've had someone I care about a great deal go through it and it's something that shouldn't be stigmatized and can be treated.
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