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Kasper:
Just move.  It would be so much less effort than all of this.

Even if you find the cause, are you going to be able to fix it?

It is nice of you to consider the next residents but maybe they won't mind it.  If you invite people over, do they hear the noise?

I lived in an apartment that was not designed for hard floors.  The people above me installed them anyways.  They broke rules and I proved it. It didn't help.  I asked them nicely to put down rugs or replace their carpet. Didn't help.  I even offered to pay part of it. Didn't help.  I became very unhappy and faught back. Created my own noise. Successfully made it unbearable for them.  Didn't help.  Instead of fixing the problem they caused, they moved out. 

Finally I sold at a loss and gtfo. Problem solved.  I can not believe I lived like that for as long as I did.  Even though I lost money, I am so happy I left.  I didn't want to pass the problem along to someone else but what more could I do? I tried harder to fix it than most people would and that was enough.  Hopefully the new owner rents to young partiers or other people that aren't as bothered by noise as I was.  At the least, they wouldn't have the whole frustrating history to make matters worse.

You have put more than enough effort into solving this.  It is clearly a terrible place for you to live. So move.

 If you really want to keep it then rent it out.  Hopefully your tenants won't mind. If they are bothered by it and move out then you have more evidence to show the city the neighbor is being unreasonably loud.

pcprogrammer:

--- Quote from: nctnico on June 07, 2022, 12:00:18 am ---
--- Quote from: Someone on June 06, 2022, 11:27:58 pm ---The environmental protection limits are completely inadequate in this area. A limit of dB A weighted at the nearest residential boundary is common in Australia (hence the above questions about the specific zoning).

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I agree. Over here low frequency noise pollution is getting more attention fortunately.

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Off topic, but yet the Dutch government is working on laws to only allow hybrid central heating systems as a replacement from 2026 onward. Most of these systems use air to water heat pumps, which make noise. Imagine a "nice" vinex location or a town like Amsterdam with all the houses fitted with such units what a noise level that might bring.

Edit: It might be read as that every body had to get a new central heating system, so added "as a replacement". Only when you need a new one you have to install a hybrid.

jonpaul:
Rebonjour, I address the French tradition of La Politesse..politeness.

In France, we constantly use the formal phrase  "S'il vous plaît" =  SVP = If you please... to ask for anything...even of a close friend or a market vendor

Its a pity that this French custom of polite communication has been forgotten or (never learned) by some of the younger generation.

I humbly suggest that the OP, moderate or review comments to be a bit more more polite, and less critical of forum members,  who are only being polite enough to use their time assist others.


Je vous prie de croire, Monsieurs, à l'assurance de mes salutations distinguées   

Jon

Someone:

--- Quote from: pcprogrammer on June 07, 2022, 05:55:04 am ---
--- Quote from: nctnico on June 07, 2022, 12:00:18 am ---
--- Quote from: Someone on June 06, 2022, 11:27:58 pm ---The environmental protection limits are completely inadequate in this area. A limit of dB A weighted at the nearest residential boundary is common in Australia (hence the above questions about the specific zoning).
--- End quote ---
I agree. Over here low frequency noise pollution is getting more attention fortunately.
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Off topic, but yet the Dutch government is working on laws to only allow hybrid central heating systems as a replacement from 2026 onward. Most of these systems use air to water heat pumps, which make noise. Imagine a "nice" vinex location or a town like Amsterdam with all the houses fitted with such units what a noise level that might bring.

Edit: It might be read as that every body had to get a new central heating system, so added "as a replacement". Only when you need a new one you have to install a hybrid.
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More uninformed/irrational heat pump scare mongering! Australia has limits on domestic appliance noise, 45 dB(A weighted) at the boundary. With plenty of installs being built right on the boundary the majority of new heat pumps meet the requirements so its not even an extra cost. There are legacy heaters gas/oil/heat-pump that fail that limit too, but since the rules only apply to new installations they get away with it.

JohanH:

--- Quote from: pcprogrammer on June 07, 2022, 05:55:04 am ---
Off topic, but yet the Dutch government is working on laws to only allow hybrid central heating systems as a replacement from 2026 onward. Most of these systems use air to water heat pumps, which make noise. Imagine a "nice" vinex location or a town like Amsterdam with all the houses fitted with such units what a noise level that might bring.


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Scaremongering. I used an air-air heat pump for maybe ten years in parallel with an oil burner. Couldn't hear the outer unit inside, the oil burner had more noise. Now using a ground source heat pump and it is more quiet than the old oil burner.

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