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Right to repair, my problem with it

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themadhippy:
How did we cope in the past,no online global markets,just your local specialist shop that actually repaired things, who would order the broken bit in for you if  they didn't have one on  the shelf.

ataradov:

--- Quote from: themadhippy on November 03, 2021, 06:25:54 pm ---How did we cope in the past,no online global markets,just your local specialist shop that actually repaired things, who would order the broken bit in for you if  they didn't have one on  the shelf.

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Things were WAY simpler in design and capabilities. You don't want to go back to that.

Alti:

--- Quote from: ataradov on November 03, 2021, 07:40:41 pm ---Things were WAY simpler in design and capabilities. You don't want to go back to that.
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Even the solutions to problems of today, including RTR, has to keep up with increasing complexity. If a washing machine 20 years ago consisted of 100 parts and current models include 500 parts then I cannot imagine this "Digikey" RTR in the next 20 years. Looks like this has to be modularized somehow, otherwise this is going to be insanely complex (think Moore's law). Now, the modules as such won't fall under RTR and we end up at the same point of unrepairability, but this time on module level.

Psi:
A manufacturer getting custom parts produced by another manufacturer isn't a problem so long as anyone can go to the same manufacturer and also get a run of the same part.

If you take most products and break them down, the number of custom parts is quite small.
Most of the custom parts are enclosure related.

Brumby:

--- Quote from: Alti on November 03, 2021, 08:55:42 pm ---Even the solutions to problems of today, including RTR, has to keep up with increasing complexity. If a washing machine 20 years ago consisted of 100 parts and current models include 500 parts then I cannot imagine this "Digikey" RTR in the next 20 years. Looks like this has to be modularized somehow, otherwise this is going to be insanely complex (think Moore's law). Now, the modules as such won't fall under RTR and we end up at the same point of unrepairability, but this time on module level.

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This all depends on what those 500 parts are.  IF we follow the thoughts presented by Psi, there could be a lot of parts that would be considered "jelly bean".  Digikey (et al) might already have a lot of these already in inventory.

This then extends into a narrow and misdirected thinking of repair.  Modular repair is only one option.
 Component level repair is an alternative that reduces inventory.

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