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Offline lscwTopic starter

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Reichelt UK shipping?
« on: March 29, 2021, 02:33:17 pm »
Browsing around on reichelt.de I noticed they don't have UK/GB/England in the Select-your-Country drop down box, nor in the est. shipping times. Same goes for reichelt.com.

Do they still ship to the UK?
It works in practice but does it work in theory?
 

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Re: Reichelt UK shipping?
« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2021, 08:11:22 pm »
Probably not. Too much hassle and not worth the effort.
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Re: Reichelt UK shipping?
« Reply #2 on: March 29, 2021, 08:23:42 pm »
I remember reading an article a couple of months ago but I can't find it now. I think it was to do with The UK government requring EU businesses outside of the country to open an account to register and declare the tax they make in the UK before they can sell anything or something like that then I read it was only for a short time until they resolve it.


Found it:

BBC News
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-55530721

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EU firms refuse UK deliveries over Brexit tax changes
By Robert Plummer
Business reporter, BBC News

Published 4th January
Some EU specialist online retailers have said they will no longer deliver to the UK because of tax changes which came into force on 1 January. Bicycle part firm Dutch Bike Bits said from now on, it would ship to every country in the world except the UK.

"We are forced by British policy to stop dealing with British customers," it said on its website. Another firm, Belgium-based Beer On Web, said it was now shunning the UK "due to the new Brexit measures". The companies are angry because they now face higher costs and increased bureaucracy in order to comply with UK tax authorities.

However, it is unclear how many have taken the drastic step of refusing all UK orders. At the same time, international shipping companies including Federal Express and TNT have said they are levying additional charges on shipments between the UK and the EU. They said this reflected the increased investment they had had to make in adjusting their systems to cope with Brexit. Adieu to the single market created by the UK UK set for 'bumpy' period as new EU rules come in

The moves follow changes in VAT rules brought in by HM Revenue and Customs on 1 January.
VAT is now being collected at the point of sale rather than at the point of importation.


This essentially means that overseas retailers sending goods to the UK are expected to register for UK VAT and account for it to HMRC if the sale value is less than €150 (£135). A government spokesperson said: "The new VAT model ensures goods from EU and non-EU countries are treated in the same way and that UK businesses are not disadvantaged by competition from VAT-free imports. "The new system also addresses the problem of overseas sellers failing to pay the right amount of VAT on sales of goods already in the UK at the point of sale, raising an anticipated £300m every year. "Many EU businesses which currently sell goods to UK customers will have already registered for UK VAT under existing rules and HMRC is working very closely with those who haven't to ensure they can comply with the changes."

Tackling evasion
Adam French, Which? consumer rights expert, said consumers would be "frustrated" if the new VAT rules were applied in a way that causes significant inconvenience. "It's vital the government makes it clear to consumers as well as traders what the changes as a result of Brexit mean for them and how they shop. It should also work to ensure UK consumers can retain access to a wide range of competitively priced and quality goods."

Campaigner Richard Allen, founder of Retailers Against VAT Abuse Schemes, told the BBC that the massive increase in international online shopping had led to VAT evasion on a huge scale. He said the new HMRC rules were aimed at tackling that, but it was unclear how firms who failed to register for UK VAT would be dealt with. "Why should a phonograph spares manufacturer in Idaho bother to register for VAT in the UK and how are you going to make them do it?" he said. "And if they send the package anyway, what are you going to do?" 'Not what we wanted' "For providing this service, [HMRC] intend to charge a fee to every company in the world in every country in the world which exports to the UK," said Dutch Bike Bits on its website. "Clearly this is ludicrous for one country, but imagine if every country in the world had the same idea. "If every country decided to behave in the same way, then we would have to pay 195 fees every year, keep up with the changes in taxation law for 195 different countries, keep accounts on behalf of 195 different countries and submit payments to 195 tax offices in 195 different countries, and jump through whatever hoops were required to prove that we were doing all of this honestly and without any error."

Dutch Bike Bits said it had many customers within the UK and would like to be able to trade with them. "Not being able to send parcels to the UK does not work in any way in our favour and it is not what we wanted," the firm added. "If you're angry about this, and you may well be so, please contact your elected representative in the UK."

Temporary?

Other firms held out the hope that their ban on exports to the UK might prove to be temporary. Scandinavian Outdoor, which is based in Finland and sells outdoor clothing and equipment, posted a message on its homepage saying: "No delivery to UK just now." In a further message explaining its decision, it said: "Due to Brexit, we have temporarily closed our store from UK-based customers. Ordering will be possible as soon as our UK VAT registration and the overall process of selling to the UK post-Brexit has been sorted out."

Meanwhile, mail and freight company TNT has said it is now imposing a surcharge of £4.31 on all shipments between the UK and the EU. TNT is now owned by Federal Express, which has also "updated" its charges, a spokesperson for the two companies said. "FedEx/TNT has been making incremental investments to adjust our systems, processes, resourcing and customer-facing solutions to ensure readiness for the change on 1 January 2021," the spokesperson added.

"To reflect these investments and the incremental cost of customs clearance, we are increasing transportation rates for shipments from UK to EU, and EU to UK."

Rivals DHL and UPS have also taken similar measures.

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Re: Reichelt UK shipping?
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2021, 08:48:29 pm »
Do they still ship to the UK?

Apparently they removed the Ireland/UK from the list on purpose. They are waiting until the delivery agent can deliver to the UK again.

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Reply from Reichelt
25 Jan 2021
Dear customer, we are sorry we are not delivering to Ireland at the moment. As soon as this is possible again, Ireland or UK will appear again as a selection option in the shop under the country settings. We are happy to pass on your feedback and if you have any questions on this topic, please contact customer service at export@reichelt.de, where these questions can best be answered. Best regards, your reichelt team

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https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.reichelt.de

I'm not 100% sure if they really have had difficulty sending stuff, or the truth is it is because of recent changes (I.e. Brexit, and perhaps new tax laws etc). But to avoid trouble, they are keeping quiet about the full/real reasons, as to why they removed the UK.
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Re: Reichelt UK shipping?
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2021, 09:35:20 pm »
The moves follow changes in VAT rules brought in by HM Revenue and Customs on 1 January.
VAT is now being collected at the point of sale rather than at the point of importation.


This essentially means that overseas retailers sending goods to the UK are expected to register for UK VAT and account for it to HMRC if the sale value is less than €150 (£135).

That explains why Aliexpress are now charging 20% VAT too. I wonder how long before the UK based Asian distribution depots on Amazon and Ebay will catch on.
« Last Edit: March 29, 2021, 09:36:51 pm by lscw »
It works in practice but does it work in theory?
 

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Re: Reichelt UK shipping?
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2021, 09:55:17 pm »
 

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Re: Reichelt UK shipping?
« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2021, 01:12:45 am »
Apparently they removed the Ireland/UK from the list on purpose. They are waiting until the delivery agent can deliver to the UK again.

I think they are having shipping issues in general. I tried to order a couple of plugs recently and they came back with about 50 Euros and a minimum 90 days by sea to Australia. They did send me a nice E-mail explaining their shipping difficulties and that it was basically that or nothing. I figure 50 Euros for about 1.5 Euros worth of bits was a bit over the top, so I politely declined.

 
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Re: Reichelt UK shipping?
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2021, 07:06:47 am »
I think they are having shipping issues in general. I tried to order a couple of plugs recently and they came back with about 50 Euros and a minimum 90 days by sea to Australia. They did send me a nice E-mail explaining their shipping difficulties and that it was basically that or nothing. I figure 50 Euros for about 1.5 Euros worth of bits was a bit over the top, so I politely declined.

I have heard that because of a combination of Covid-19 issues, potential staff shortages, massive huge demands for many things, shortages of things, Brexit changes (specific to UK/Ireland) and other factors, such as too many shipping containers being in the wrong place and at the wrong time. That there are and have been problems.
Also all the flight changes, because of so many flights being stopped/cancelled due to Covid-19 travel restrictions, round the world, and many people being either put off or banned (in law), from traveling, in a number of cases (varies by country, obviously).

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Re: Reichelt UK shipping?
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2023, 09:20:58 pm »
Does anybody know if Reichelt are still excluding the UK from their shipping?

I want to build the "RCT Chip Tester Pro" and it'll take hours to transfer the Reichelt Shopping Cart in the Construction Book to Rapid Electronics or CPC, and RS are now slapping over large MOQs on small components!

Is there a means of directly exporting the Reichelt Shopping Cart to a UK Components Supplier?

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« Last Edit: March 27, 2023, 09:23:03 pm by Chris56000 »
It's an enigma that's what it is!! This thing's not fixed because it doesn't want to be fixed!!
 

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Re: Reichelt UK shipping?
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2023, 10:04:00 pm »
Does anybody know if Reichelt are still excluding the UK from their shipping?
It allows me to select Ireland, but not the UK. So I guess they are shipping again to Ireland, but do not what to deal with the customs hassle of shipping to the UK post-Brexit.

If you shop within the EU more often, then using a service like Forward2me (no relation or particular recommendation) to act as a shipping address in Germany and forward it to the UK might make sense. But that would probably mean paying VAT twice (inside Germany and then again when you import it in the UK).

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Re: Reichelt UK shipping?
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2023, 10:27:15 pm »
Due to the EU, UK, Brexit and VAT régulations diktat by the mandarin with sinécures, we informed ours UK customers to arrange all freight, tax, shipping via a freight Fowarding service.

Our responsibility ends at our loading dock.

Most small  firm's are obliged to do similair.

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Re: Reichelt UK shipping?
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2023, 10:55:32 pm »
Prolly makes more sense to ship to an Irish forwarding service. Still cost you VAT and tax, though.
 

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Re: Reichelt UK shipping?
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2023, 08:12:27 pm »
I guess the most useful option would be a friend living in the northern reaches of Southern Ireland, ready to stroll with the parcel over the border to Northern Ireland and resend to your address from any post-office. I'd guess it would costs taxes/VAT at the sale time only for getting to SI, but you'd be having to pay twice for delivery (one to the seller, once to your Southern Irish friend). And I don't know if the Southern Irish friend would need to go through the bother of getting pounds to pay the NI post office with, or if NI post-offices take SI euros. Wonder if any Irish border area people have though of this as a business plan?
 


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