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Offline smashedProtonTopic starter

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I have taught myself a great deal about electronics design.  But I think that i am reaching the practical limit that the internet can teach my right now.  In order to gain more knowledge, I am thinking about visiting my brothers college (Washington state) and sitting in some electronics courses.  At this point, I'm not interested in diploma.  (I'm still a kid)  Is this a good idea?  Are there any better routes that I can take?   :-//
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Re: Excellent way for a teen to get a primer on advanced electronics?
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2013, 07:57:14 pm »
speechless.... ;D
http://www.garrettbaldwin.com/

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Offline StubbornGreek

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Re: Excellent way for a teen to get a primer on advanced electronics?
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2013, 09:30:32 pm »
speechless.... ;D
Ya, its pretty awesome. Also, check out their YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/MIT
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Re: Excellent way for a teen to get a primer on advanced electronics?
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2013, 04:42:26 am »
Also try YouTube and search for NPTEL which is the Indian Institute to technology. There many videos.

Robert
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Re: Excellent way for a teen to get a primer on advanced electronics?
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2013, 06:53:32 pm »
I see you live in Seattle; what high school do you attend?  Doesn't the high school have any resources for someone like you who wants to learn more?  There are community colleges in town which could provide learning opportunities.
 

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Re: Excellent way for a teen to get a primer on advanced electronics?
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2013, 07:52:13 pm »
Thank you for the recources guys.

And to answer your questions:
I go to Shorecrest High School in the shoreline area.
At shorecrest, we have virtually no technical education.
Recently the industrial tech rooms were torn down, so i was able to get the principle to write off the two oscilloscopes that the school owned.  2 40 mhz hitachi analog scopes w/o much use.  Score!   ;D

We have a joke of a physics curriculum, and our science classes are just enviornmental stuff...  I dont know about other schools; but this is certainly bad...

My dream college is harvey mudd, but i will probably end up going to WSU..
Thanks

edit.  Do you live in the seattle area by any chance? 
« Last Edit: January 09, 2013, 07:55:45 pm by smashedProton »
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Offline The Electrician

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Re: Excellent way for a teen to get a primer on advanced electronics?
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2013, 02:27:46 am »
edit.  Do you live in the seattle area by any chance?

Yes.
 

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Re: Excellent way for a teen to get a primer on advanced electronics?
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2013, 03:37:55 am »
I'm also a teenager. 18 actually.

I know what you mean. The internet is wonderful but sometimes it makes me go crazy looking for stuff. The most frustrating part is that the information I want is probably all out there, but the problem is that I don't always know where to look. Sometimes you find some real nice golden nuggets hidden in some 30 year old application notes or from some mysterious website. But finding it is the problem. This doesn't just apply to teenagers of course.

Lately what I've been doing is stocking up on electronics books. I don't exactly have the time to read them right now, but for me, books are the key.

There's something about learning off a computer screen that just doesn't work for me. I like printed text much better. Books help me focus and retain better. Also, I think the quality of writing and the content of books tends to be better than some explanations you might find on the internet. There are of course many great resources on the internet, but a quality printed publication seems to work the best for me.

I'm not sure if sitting in on college lectures would be good or not. I've watched some of those MIT/Yale lectures and though the teachers are typically brilliant, they seem to focus too much on math for my taste. I'm pretty good at calculus, but sometimes I just think it's unnecessary to constantly employ it while you are trying to teach something that might be difficult even without the calculus and advanced physics.

This Christmas I treated myself to the Art of Electronics (1989), Design of Modern Transistor Circuits (1973), and Designing Audio Power Amplifiers (2010). I haven't had too much time to read but what I have read has been top notch. My girlfriend thinks I'm a complete lunatic for a.) buying books for Christmas and b.) buying engineering reference books. But anyway, I've found them to be in depth and very complete without too much BS, which is what I like about them. The college books I have read seem to be good information but you have to weed it out of all of the theory. Theory isn't bad, but sometimes it's just like "give me a break! just tell me what I need to know!".

I'm not sure where you are on your electronics "journey" and how much you know. This is just my personal thing. Books books and more books. The internet is great but you can't beat some good ol' books.
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Re: Excellent way for a teen to get a primer on advanced electronics?
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2013, 03:53:23 am »
There's quite a big tech sector here in Seattle, surprised to hear that shoreline isn't that great.

There's been some good suggestions already, the Art of Electronics is awesome, walks all the way from ohms law to the architecture of the 68008 and every thing in between. Most of the knowledge I know comes from that, the internet and some quality time with LTSpice and real circuits.

Also, I hear UW has a pretty solid EE program, a few coworkers I know graduated from it and speak highly of it.
 

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Re: Excellent way for a teen to get a primer on advanced electronics?
« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2013, 04:50:21 am »
Also, I hear UW has a pretty solid EE program, a few coworkers I know graduated from it and speak highly of it.

And they have a really nice building that Paul Allen bought for them.   :)
 

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Re: Excellent way for a teen to get a primer on advanced electronics?
« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2013, 11:01:53 pm »
There's quite a big tech sector here in Seattle, surprised to hear that shoreline isn't that great.

There's been some good suggestions already, the Art of Electronics is awesome, walks all the way from ohms law to the architecture of the 68008 and every thing in between. Most of the knowledge I know comes from that, the internet and some quality time with LTSpice and real circuits.

Also, I hear UW has a pretty solid EE program, a few coworkers I know graduated from it and speak highly of it.

I agree a diverse "curriculum" is essential. Doing some real life experiments, even if they are simple, are sometimes really helpful. And Spice definitely has its place also.
 

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Re: Excellent way for a teen to get a primer on advanced electronics?
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2013, 08:24:54 pm »
I got my blood drawn just the other day by an intern from UW.  She said that I have nice veins  ;D

Anyway, I need book that has all of the information that I need to know.  I will give the art of electronics a shot.  When I get money.. 
I will probably be going to WSU, but the drive scares the hell out of me.  All of the accidents over the pass and all..

I have found a science fair:
http://www.shorelinesciencefair.org/

Is always a pain for engineers to enter science fairs though...  I don't want to ask a lame ass question like everyone else, like "how long does lipstick stay on the skin?"
seriously, that was one of the winning projects... 
Im may show my room automation board, or maybe de-cap chips.  They are always fun.
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Re: Excellent way for a teen to get a primer on advanced electronics?
« Reply #13 on: January 12, 2013, 05:21:16 pm »
buy http://www.amazon.com/Art-Electronics-Paul-Horowitz/dp/0521370957

don't bother with (iilegal) epub or so, get the printed version ... really

it's the best investment in electronics you'll ever do , besides getting a fluke ;)

edit: nevermind, you have it. doh
« Last Edit: January 12, 2013, 05:23:15 pm by Polossatik »
Real Circuit design time in minutes= (2 + Nscopes) Testim + (40 +120 Kbrewski) Nfriends

Testim = estimated time in minutes Nscopes= number of oscilloscopes present Kbrewski = linear approx of the nonlinear beer effect Nfriends = number of circuit design friends present
 


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