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PlainName:

--- Quote ---Why didn't you get a REAL safe?
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Much more hassle when one inevitably forgets the combination or loses the key. Kind of like ransomware without the ransom part.

Cerebus:

--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on November 13, 2021, 01:43:41 pm ---
--- Quote ---Why didn't you get a REAL safe?
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Much more hassle when one inevitably forgets the combination or loses the key. Kind of like ransomware without the ransom part.

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'Real' safes are fricking heavy and even with the right people and equipment are absolute bastards to move anywhere. Over the years I've had offers to acquire "no longer required" safes for free, if I was prepared to take them away. Every time the logistics have made it impossible or impracticable.

One of those offers was from no less than a government laboratory. The offer came with the caveat "We've lost the combination". Combined with the hassle of getting it off a third floor in an old central London building without a loading dock I passed on the offer. A few weeks later the person who offered it to me told me "We found the combination to that safe eventually. Lucky we did, it had several reels of platinum wire in it.". Damn, and double damn. Had I taken it (with all the hassle) it would have come, as you might expect, with official paperwork to say that it was mine including the contents purchased for a peppercorn £1 "payment of which is hereby acknowledged".

TerraHertz:

--- Quote from: dunkemhigh on November 13, 2021, 01:43:41 pm ---Much more hassle when one inevitably forgets the combination or loses the key. Kind of like ransomware without the ransom part.

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That's just making up an excuse to reject an idea. 'Backups' - you know you can make copies of keys, and write combinations down, right? If you lose access to a safe because you lost or forgot something, how did you ever manage to own anything worth keeping in the safe?


--- Quote from: Cerebus on November 13, 2021, 02:56:32 pm ---'Real' safes are fricking heavy and even with the right people and equipment are absolute bastards to move anywhere. Over the years I've had offers to acquire "no longer required" safes for free, if I was prepared to take them away. Every time the logistics have made it impossible or impracticable.
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Well you weren't being resourceful enough.  Pic.


--- Quote ---"We found the combination to that safe eventually. Lucky we did, it had several reels of platinum wire in it."
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A fine demonstration that you should have tried. A good locksmith could probably have determined the combination.

Short story: Years ago I helped some friends clear out a business, one of many in an old multi-storey building in central Sydney, where the property owner had given all tenants short notice to leave, because the building was to be redeveloped. During this I had a look around in the rest of the building, all of which was in final stage of everybody gone. In one obscure upstairs area, I came across two guys who had three very large safes on their backs on the floor. Obviously removed from various now vacated tennant spaces. They were using a big magnet-base holesaw drill to open them. One down two to go. They didn't seem comfortable to be discovered, so I left. Carry on...

PlainName:

--- Quote ---That's just making up an excuse to reject an idea.
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Actually, it was a poor attempt at some humour.


--- Quote ---If you lose access to a safe because you lost or forgot something, how did you ever manage to own anything worth keeping in the safe?
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If you own something worth keeping in a safe and it isn't actually in a safe, is it not worth anything? Strange logic :)

But since you ask, been in that kind of situation more than once. Typically when the backup whatever hasn't been needed for years because the normal key or whatever has never been mislaid. Until it has. I've left the house key indoors when going out because something has distracted me or they're in the other jacket or just plain fallen out of my pocket. I'm pretty sure the house contents were worth being in the house. Well, most of it. The test tools, anyway.

Cerebus:

--- Quote from: TerraHertz on November 13, 2021, 09:56:31 pm ---
--- Quote from: Cerebus on November 13, 2021, 02:56:32 pm ---'Real' safes are fricking heavy and even with the right people and equipment are absolute bastards to move anywhere. Over the years I've had offers to acquire "no longer required" safes for free, if I was prepared to take them away. Every time the logistics have made it impossible or impracticable.
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Well you weren't being resourceful enough.  Pic.

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You try being "resourceful" in a Government Laboratory with an entire department full of Health and Safety Officers. Method statements, test certificates for lifting and moving equipment, yadda, yadda, yadda. Not even the sort of place that you can do things on the quiet at the weekend when they wouldn't be around to bother you.

Imagine trying to move a safe out of a government building (one with a official, secret cannabis farm on the roof), next to a major railway station, "quietly" on a weekend. One suspects that an awkward conversation with Lilly Law would ensue. (Although this was back in the 80s, the IRA was still a thing as the "Alert State" boards reminded you every time you went in the building - so I suspect that Lilly Law's response wouldn't be the gentlest encounter one might have with the Metropolitan Police. Three dodgy looking geezers* with a big van at the back of a government building on the weekend that no one official knows about might not be the best people to be.)

* I and all my friends at the time fit that description. I'm so dodgy looking that the Metropolitan Police have mistaken me for one of their own, more than once.

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