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Re: Safe box dead battery
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2021, 06:30:50 pm »
Seeing this BBC news report today on the jailing of the gang responsible for celebrity burglaries in the UK...  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-59253057 , the photo appears to show that the safe levered open by a simple garden spade(?). Certainly the frame doesn't seem to display many signs of scratched paint. Can a safe with so many impressive looking bolts really be that simple? :o

Maybe they are just for marketing purposes!




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Re: Safe box dead battery
« Reply #26 on: November 15, 2021, 09:17:38 pm »
Doesn't look right to me. The door would sit flush in the frame, so I can't see how they could wedge a spade in there and get any leverage. Also, the bolts along the vertical look fine (at least, not as mangled as the ones we can see properly).

The presence of the spade doesn't mean they used it to break into the safe. Maybe it was used the jemmy the wardrobe in which the safe was hidden, or they took it along just in case.

Edit: I'm convinced it wasn't the spade. There are no marks on it and the blade still have a curve with turned up edges. No way would that go between door and frame, and get under to provide leverage.
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Re: Safe box dead battery
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2021, 09:52:12 pm »
Well it is open, there doesn't appear to be any significant damage to, or tearing of, the door frame, the photo is from the Met Police, and it's from a scene of crime.

It may not look right, but it does look like it was levered rather than drilled - maybe they bent the hinges first. Either way, I can't see the insurance company being happy with its performance.

I'm surprised by how short those bolts are (from the angle they are sitting at) - my engineering mind would expect at least 75% of the length to be still in the door when locked for decent support. Those look like there's hardly anything.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2021, 09:55:46 pm by Gyro »
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Re: Safe box dead battery
« Reply #28 on: November 16, 2021, 12:34:33 am »
Yes, indeed, but what's that metal thing in the rag? That looks more interesting than the spade, IMO. Not that I've broken into a safe, or used a spade for other than digging. Maybe a little hacking. And, er, spanking. But that's it.
 

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Re: Safe box dead battery
« Reply #29 on: November 16, 2021, 09:48:24 am »
The way the metal is buckled around the bolts and the door, that safe is a piece of crap, garbage welded sheet metal designed to give the impression of security rather than actual security.



 

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Re: Safe box dead battery
« Reply #30 on: November 16, 2021, 11:29:07 am »
The way the metal is buckled around the bolts and the door, that safe is a piece of crap, garbage welded sheet metal designed to give the impression of security rather than actual security.

... Which is crazy when you consider the wealth of the victims and the size of the haul (see the original news article) - £26M in jewellery and watches from three burglaries in London's Kensington and Chelsea areas. One actually had security guards on site... although one had gone off to buy vegetables!

It really makes you wonder how the insurance companies could permit the use of such crappy safes - unless they too get fooled by fake 'CAT' ratings (picking a phrase from dodgy DMM ratings :D).
« Last Edit: November 16, 2021, 11:38:06 am by Gyro »
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Re: Safe box dead battery
« Reply #31 on: November 16, 2021, 11:33:49 am »
I've watched a few videos from the https://www.youtube.com/c/lockpickinglawyer
Somehow it has a comedic effect on me when he opens a lock in 2 seconds. Or when he opens a gun lock with a LEGO astronaut.
This safe probably has a key backup, that can be opened with a twig or a fork or some other everyday object, it is for sure not safe, only designed to keep out honest people.
 
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