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| AaronLee:
--- Quote from: Ranayna on September 09, 2021, 09:10:03 am --- --- Quote from: AaronLee on September 09, 2021, 08:08:41 am ---Do you mean they don't sell non-smart TVs anymore? I wouldn't know because I'm with Simon, and I don't even own a TV nor have researched the current TV market for a very long time. TVs don't make for good computer monitors, so the only TV-like devices I buy are real computer monitors. --- End quote --- If a TV for you has some kind of integrated tuner, then no, i do not think that many non-smart TVs are made anymore. At least not in the common consumer brands. If you can live with an external device to provide signal, then indeed monitors are a decent substitution, but those get expensive when you want large sizes and stuff like OLED screens. Other than that, there are sometimes also Devices like Information Displays though. Many of these use TV panels, but lack all the smarts. Paradoxically, these are sometimes more expensive than the equivalent TV :D --- End quote --- Yes, a real monitor only can be much more expensive than an equivalent size TV. But the quality of the picture is also much better, at least for all cases I've checked. For low-res needs, or viewing from a distance, an large screen TV might be fine. For up close high-res needs, TVs used as monitors are crap, unless there's some I've not seen. |
| tom66:
Apple do this too, on phones stolen from Apple stores. |
| tom66:
--- Quote from: AaronLee on September 09, 2021, 09:46:58 am ---Yes, a real monitor only can be much more expensive than an equivalent size TV. But the quality of the picture is also much better, at least for all cases I've checked. For low-res needs, or viewing from a distance, an large screen TV might be fine. For up close high-res needs, TVs used as monitors are crap, unless there's some I've not seen. --- End quote --- It's cheaper to buy 4K TV's nowadays than 4K monitors. I personally have 2 x 28" 4K monitors, and they're great. But they cost £400 in total new (which was very cheap, they are now more expensive due to the silicon shortage, last I checked.) A 48" 4K TV would cost about the same and offers more screen area, although less total pixels. I know a 3D CAD mechanical designer who has a 39" 4K TV as his main desktop display and has it partitioned into 2/3 displays as needed. |
| PKTKS:
--- Quote from: eti on September 09, 2021, 05:51:30 am ---(..) I would delegate this to those with more everyday experience, aka "AVS forums" - they know this stuff inside out,. back to front, upside down etc - this is their bread and butter. The "smart" TV manufacturers are NOTORIOUS for abandoning their shitty products - these sets are NOT their main and/or sole interest, and thus, they have ZERO interest in keeping them patched/supported, just as with the gangantuan array of TRASH Android handsets. They care about repeat sales, not repeat updates for older machines. My 2015 Roku is STILL receiving the latest OS updates, I check it once every 6 months, and the same cannot be said for the JUNK "smart" TVs. (..) --- End quote --- Nope for quite some time it has been impossible to dissociate things as they was.. Audiophile HIFI days -GONE AV integrated SHITE - GONE Video standards - GONE the list goes on Presently the cost of these "SMART" gizmos boils down 75% to 85% just onto the PANEL. Those who manufacture the PANELS are making money... The rest of the stack is IP property piling like nuts All things converged and blurred to 2 or 3 brands which detain the vertical stack AMD/ATI NV/ARM and the whole ecosystem around ANDROID TYZEN and smart gizmos made from what once upon a time was open software.. Apple gizmos are not very much different. Piling the whole stack into silicon will be the next step.. They won't be repairable.. They won't be open in any terms . Vendors will obsolete that shit at will at insane rate.. We urge need to get rid of these trends... They are already at pace. Software can do much more damage into our lives than old style hardware locks Paul |
| Berni:
--- Quote from: eti on September 09, 2021, 05:51:30 am ---I would delegate this to those with more everyday experience, aka "AVS forums" - they know this stuff inside out,. back to front, upside down etc - this is their bread and butter. The "smart" TV manufacturers are NOTORIOUS for abandoning their shitty products - these sets are NOT their main and/or sole interest, and thus, they have ZERO interest in keeping them patched/supported, just as with the gangantuan array of TRASH Android handsets. They care about repeat sales, not repeat updates for older machines. My 2015 Roku is STILL receiving the latest OS updates, I check it once every 6 months, and the same cannot be said for the JUNK "smart" TVs. This is a fact - I've done HUGE amounts of research on this, not to mention listening to Scott Wilkison of the aforementioned "AVS forums" talking LIVE on a Saturday evening via "The Tech Guy" from http://live.twit.tv - and you can multiply that by however many (5+ I reckon) years, and X amount of hours I've heard him and other ACTUAL industry experts discussing these subjects, and taking calls from consumers. External TV box ALWAYS WINS, irrefutable fact. --- End quote --- I did mention in my post that any smart functionality in that TV is going to be completely unusable after 10 years. Since yes they abandon firmware development and move on to a new TV model. This is why i also said in my post that we have a PC connected to the TV. I actually don't even remember when the tuner inside the TV was even used. Its basically always being used as a huge HDMI monitor, not even the internal speakers are used because there is a separate 5.1 system. So for my use case all i need is the dumbest possible TV that can display 1080p from HDMI. However i KNOW that my use case is not identical to the use case of my neighbor or my neighbors neighbor. Some people like using the smart TV functionalities. Or sometimes i myself find them convenient if i am traveling and happen to have a smart TV in my apartment/hotel/whatever. Out of those that i used i had a pretty good experience with Samsung ones. I haven't used every single brand to know for sure, but i found using it a pleasant experience with Samsung. It was fast and responsive while i could quickly intuitively figure out how the menus work, no notable frustration in using it. Just because you personalty don't have a use for something this doesn't mean that nobody else has. |
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