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| AaronLee:
--- Quote from: Bud on September 09, 2021, 11:50:57 am ---It was not clear to which extent Samsung's kill switch works. Maybe it disables the entire thing so you cant use it even as a monitor. --- End quote --- But a kill switch will only work if the TV is connected to something. If you never setup the TV to connect to the outside world, they can't trigger the kill switch. Unless for some ridiculous reason they require connection before it's even used. |
| tom66:
--- Quote from: AaronLee on September 09, 2021, 11:56:29 am --- --- Quote from: Bud on September 09, 2021, 11:50:57 am ---It was not clear to which extent Samsung's kill switch works. Maybe it disables the entire thing so you cant use it even as a monitor. --- End quote --- But a kill switch will only work if the TV is connected to something. If you never setup the TV to connect to the outside world, they can't trigger the kill switch. Unless for some ridiculous reason they require connection before it's even used. --- End quote --- Which I doubt they will get away with because there are some number of customers buying a TV as just a terrestrial device. Maybe they can send packets on spare space in DVB-T or whatever SA uses? My old Panasonic TV received firmware updates for its freeview receiver that way. They downloaded overnight. No internet connection needed. You could turn off the option though if you wanted. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: Simon on September 09, 2021, 07:17:27 am ---The cost of theft is generally bourn by all the other consumers one way or another. Why people don't like connecting a TV to the internet I don't know, it's just another computer like the one on your desk or in your pocket. --- End quote --- Because it's common knowledge that virtually all TVs now are smart TVs and "smart" TVs are cheaper than regular TVs precisely because they spy on your viewing habbits and harvest valuable data which is sold to marketers for a profit behind your back. Some of them even have ads now that are displayed within the interface of the TV, regardless of where the content is coming from. The whole world feels saturated with ads to the point that I hate ads so much, and I hate products that I see as a Trojan horse designed to deliver more ads. Also the "smart" aspect is usually pretty terrible, just barely adequate when it's brand new and then within just a few years it isn't getting updated anymore and features stop working. Speaking of updates, that brings its own problem. I still remember one of the first times I ever played with a "smart" TV, I was at my friend's place and we turned it on to watch something and it needed to update, must have taken 20 minutes just to get it through all that by which point I'd forgotten what we were going to watch. It's just stupid and I don't trust any of these companies at all, so I refuse to connect a TV to the internet. It isn't "just another computer", it's a black box, I can't see what it's doing and I can't control what it's doing, and the features it provides me are easily replicated by a box that I CAN seen inside. The choice is simple. |
| james_s:
--- Quote from: AaronLee on September 09, 2021, 08:08:41 am ---Do you mean they don't sell non-smart TVs anymore? I wouldn't know because I'm with Simon, and I don't even own a TV nor have researched the current TV market for a very long time. TVs don't make for good computer monitors, so the only TV-like devices I buy are real computer monitors. --- End quote --- Generally speaking, no, they don't, not above a certain size. Even if you have no interest in owning one, go look at the offerings larger than about 32", try to find even one that is just a regular TV, I bet you won't find one. Yes you can buy commercial monitors but they are very expensive relative to consumer TVs due to being a low volume niche item and the fact that smart TVs are subsidized by the data they gather on you. No manufacture tells you that's why they want you to connect it to the internet but it is, the only business reason the smart feature exists is to spy on you, the features it offers are to entice you to connect it. |
| Simon:
Ah, that all new things must be bad thing. Yes the world is saturated with adds because people won't pay for stuff. Lets see how many here have youtube premium? thought so, how many here have and add blocker? Ah yes, you useless free loading bastards, how many here just let the adds roll - fair play, you will give away your time so that you don't have to pay for shit, your time cannot be worth much. The world runs on adds because people don't like paying for stuff, but then they will bitch about how these evil bastards are "tracking us". |
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