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| NiHaoMike:
I wonder if the Internet might largely go back to the P2P model. Nowadays, it's cheaper than ever to run your own server with cheap, low power platforms like Raspberry Pi. |
| Gary350z:
Quote from: Berni on September 08, 2021, 10:12:14 pm "the various apps like youtube..." Quote from: eti on September 08, 2021, 10:51:30 pm "The "smart" TV manufacturers are NOTORIOUS for abandoning their shitty products..." Several years ago I got an email from Sony saying they will turn off the YouTube app on my fairly new Sony TV on a specific date. That date arrives, and no more YouTube. I paid for that function, and they just delete it. >:( So I had to go buy an external box (which turned out to be better). |
| james_s:
The annoying thing is that youtube has not really changed noticeably in at least a decade (that aspect I like) but the amount of CPU power required to play the video has increased greatly to the point that old PCs and devices that used to stream youtube just fine no longer can. That part I don't like. I doubt there are any early generation smart TVs that can still stream youtube. |
| MrMobodies:
--- Quote from: Simon on September 10, 2021, 08:25:24 pm ---The add system has gone from being sensible adds to walls of crap that make up 50% of some sites. --- End quote --- I have seen some websites doing the spammy things (not the adverts themselves) with the placements of the adverts like a few putting them in a fixed position over the contents, making them appear all of a sudden over the contents with offers and some dim the background and cutting me off which I find down right rude and insulting (not so much the dialogue in itself but the dimming) I remembered Sky news some years ago putting the same advert at either sides of the page and saw other sites doing it for while making them flash at the same time, also in a fixed position when they could just leave in absolute positioning allowing it to scroll inline with the rest of the page like 20 years ago and put many more underneath where they'd have a better chance of me clicking something of interest instead banking their hopes on two large pf the same distracting banners thinking that would appeal to me. I have seen a lot of clickbait looking stuff on and news websites starting a few years ago but now I know what to avoid when I suspect a link with a thumbnail what looks to me like a stock photo and I remember too many times leading something like questionnaires, survey's and offers "This item has taken the UK by surprise." --- Quote from: james_s on September 12, 2021, 06:40:38 pm ---The annoying thing is that youtube has not really changed noticeably in at least a decade (that aspect I like) but the amount of CPU power required to play the video has increased greatly to the point that old PCs and devices that used to stream youtube just fine no longer can. That part I don't like. I doubt there are any early generation smart TVs that can still stream youtube. --- End quote --- Is this like playing 1 - 4k video or with just 360/480p. My old quad core laptop manages 1k/1448p video just fine which is good enough for me. I find the Youtube elements below is what really slows the page load down and when I hover the cursor over the thumbnails they start playing really fast which is not something I want. I find it looks a lot better hiding the UI decorations and other crap I don't to see but "Allow Acceptable Ads" if using ABP must be unticked or it seems to ignore some of them. --- Code: ---youtube.com##.ytp-doubletap-static-circle youtube.com##.ytp-doubletap-ui.ytp-time-seeking youtube.com##.ytp-doubletap-fast-forward-ve youtube.com##.ytp-doubletap-rewind-ve youtube.com##.ytp-doubletap-ripple youtube.com##.ytp-doubletap-overlay-a11y youtube.com##.ytp-doubletap-seek-info-container youtube.com##.ytp-doubletap-arrows-container youtube.com##.ytp-doubletap-base-arrow youtube.com##.ytp-doubletap-tooltip youtube.com##.ytp-chapter-seek-text youtube.com##.modal-dialog-bg.b3-modal-dialog.b3-modal-dialog-quantum youtube.com##.b3id-page-overlay-spinner.b3-page-overlay-spinner youtube.com##.b3id-page-overlay-spinner youtube.com##.b3id-page-overlay youtube.com##.b3id-spinner-section.b3-spinner-section youtube.com##.b3id-spinner-section youtube.com##.b3-spinner-section 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That date arrives, and no more YouTube. I paid for that function, and they just delete it. >:( So I had to go buy an external box (which turned out to be better). --- End quote --- I wonder what would have happen if you set system updates and "app" updates off would the "app" still be there even if it stopped working? If I had one of those and say I managed prevent it from deleting the app and found it still worked fine with Youtube way past that date I'd be furious to the fact it is intended that I have no control over it, they betrayed my trust* (see below), they can do what they like and I'd feel the television never belonged to me in the first place. https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/support/articles/00113306 --- Quote ---Sony and Google will be *providing you with important updates for your TV, including key features and applications :bullshit: as well as bug fixes and performance enhancements :bullshit:. *We strongly recommend leaving this setting to ON. --- End quote --- It would have been nice to say why they are removing the "app" whether it is a technical limitation or so. |
| IDEngineer:
Two recent changes I've seen to ad presentation that are definite pet peeves: 1) They cleverly compose the page such that the "Next Page" button is below an ad which doesn't render to its full size at first. When you move the pointer to click to the next page, the ad suddenly renders which pushes the button down the page, and you end up clicking on the ad. Happens far too often, on far too many different sites, to be an accident. Technically clever but infuriating. 2) Some sites now seem to have a "master" hyperlink that is activated no matter which link on the page is clicked, and of course it takes you to an ad site. Back-arrowing to the original page then lets you click on the actual links. |
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