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tggzzz:

--- Quote from: 5U4GB on May 03, 2023, 01:22:54 pm ---
--- Quote from: coppice on April 19, 2023, 03:25:01 pm ---Its incredibly hard to make a story flow if you are going to be accurate. Its would be tool long, and too complex. You just have to give the author some licence.
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Consider an accurate movie rendition of some space manoeuver:

Ensign X: Initiating Womble manoeuver.
Crew sits there flapping their hands over panels with random lit symbols on them.
Time passes
Ensign X breaks wind.
More time passes.
Ensign X: Well, that's the end of my shift, can I get anyone anything before I turn in?
Ensign Y: Nah, all good, thanks!
More time passes.
Ensign Y sneezes.
Several more hours pass.
Ensign Y leaves at the end of the shift.
Several more hours pass. Ensign X returns for their next shift.
Ensign X: How's it going?
Ensign Z: So far so good, another two days to go.
Ensign X: Yup.
More time passes.

Not exactly riveting viewing is it?  I mean, it's cheap to produce and all, but I don't think it'll hold onto its audience.

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Cue Joe Haldeman's "The Forever War"

AVGresponding:

--- Quote from: tggzzz on May 03, 2023, 02:27:23 pm ---
--- Quote from: 5U4GB on May 03, 2023, 01:02:55 pm ---
--- Quote from: tggzzz on March 17, 2023, 06:23:31 pm ---Plot line: a group of random political prisoners steal the most powerful fighter spaceship in the galaxy. Later they find an omniscient computer. Each episode they still manage to get themselves into scrapes with vastly inferior opposition forces.
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You're not watching it for the sophisticated plot, you're watching it for Paul Darrow and, for a lighter note, Michael Keating.  It also contains a lot of things that later became common in other series like longer story arcs rather than one-episode set pieces, the creators of several later series were big fans of Blake's 7.

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Surely you mean Jacqueline Pearce or Glynis Barber.

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Shameful! No mention of Sally Knyvette!

I should probably not mention I had a cat called Soolin...

coppice:

--- Quote from: 5U4GB on May 03, 2023, 01:02:55 pm ---
--- Quote from: tggzzz on March 17, 2023, 06:23:31 pm ---Plot line: a group of random political prisoners steal the most powerful fighter spaceship in the galaxy. Later they find an omniscient computer. Each episode they still manage to get themselves into scrapes with vastly inferior opposition forces.
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You're not watching it for the sophisticated plot, you're watching it for Paul Darrow and, for a lighter note, Michael Keating.  It also contains a lot of things that later became common in other series like longer story arcs rather than one-episode set pieces, the creators of several later series were big fans of Blake's 7.

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Terry Wogan was such a big fan he started a charity to raise funds to send the cast to acting school.

coppercone2:

--- Quote from: tggzzz on May 03, 2023, 02:29:34 pm ---
Cue Joe Haldeman's "The Forever War"

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That author IMO was very interested in statistics, the basis for making his world believable was kind of like demographic statistics and stuff. He reminds me of particle accelerator analysis people

Battlestar galactica new one basically had no motion of the big ships but it remained interesting.

The movie battleship is based on a board game but it was made interesting

Maybe its only as boring as your captain

If space combat is boring and dismal it means your shield generators and armor are too weak. But Haldman inadvertently went into that when he was attempting to show progress, because the boring combat stuff is when the ship is built like the moon lander, out of paper thin aluminum.. I think once you start rolling 12 foot thick steel things get more interesting... oragami shop vs pipe works


so
1) did you develop a good power distribution system for the 100 TW reactor on board?
2) did you manage to weld up that heavy steel?


Even more interesting if someone develops some kind of field that diffracts light and spreads out laser beams, then you need to get closer and use mass. Like say a wall of some kind of exotic particle wall (gripped by EM) that act as a diffuser barrier 2 miles away for the 10TW laser beam that is going to hit the ship. Like if it just happens to make a prism made of exotic matter assimilate in the path of the laser cannon. Plasma wave guide things or something, not really sure what it would be, but its scifi

David Hess:

--- Quote from: coppercone2 on May 03, 2023, 08:51:26 pm ---1) did you develop a good power distribution system for the 100 TW reactor on board?
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Even more important than the power distribution and reactor is how did you cool it?

http://www.projectrho.com/public_html/rocket/heatrad.php

And I am quite sure that you are going to make things infinitely worse by insisting on your precious nuclear power reactors and megawatt laser cannons. Human bodies only make enough waste heat to kill everybody, reactors and lasers can make the entire freaking ship glow white-hot and vaporize.

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