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Search Function on Banggood
« on: July 18, 2022, 12:37:10 am »
Hi,

Banggood...One of the biggest seller with the greatest number of offers because it comes from china - what you can´t get from china, you´ll get it nowhere...So I thought about it all the years.
But when you use the searchfunction...
For example searching for LCR Meter...
Try it out...13 Results ?! Are they kidding me ?!
Did I something wrong ?

Here the results:

https://de.banggood.com/search/lcr-meter.html?from=nav

Do they really offer so less....

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Re: Search Function on Banggood
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2022, 12:56:31 am »
BG is good for consumer goods and other junk like that. It is not great for test equipment.

What they have is basically what "low cost" manufacturers have for LCR meters. AliExpress has a bit more (notably they have Uni-T stuff, which has a chance of being usable), but basically it is the same selection.
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Re: Search Function on Banggood
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2022, 03:36:48 pm »
Banggood has a much smaller selection than AliExpress. But both of their search functions are miserable, so don’t expect miracles. (And they’re even worse in non-Chinese languages other than English, and even that requires understanding the curious AliExpress dialect of English, where long-lead LEDs are “long hair LED” and dice for games are “resin deciders”.)

I rarely use banggood because it’s usually more expensive. But for some things (like kits) they’re easier to navigate.

My long-term strategy with AliExpress is to search for the thing I want, look in the results for items similar to what I want, and then click some of those to try and identify vendors who specialize in the category of item. Then I browse and/or search the specific vendor for the thing I want. (Searching within a vendor works fairly well; searching all of AliExpress is borderline useless.) I make sure to save the vendors who have wide or interesting selections.
« Last Edit: July 18, 2022, 03:38:27 pm by tooki »
 
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Re: Search Function on Banggood
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2022, 04:13:11 pm »
Apples to oranges comparison when comparing with AliExpress.

AliExpress is more like eBay - a marketplace, where anyone can come and sell their gadget or gizmo.

Banggood operates more like a consumer goods chain - they pick whatever they think will sell from the Chinese marketplace and then offer it on their store. They also pre-position the larger/heavier/more expensive items that are likely to be popular to their local warehouses around the world.

By consequence Banggood is unlikely to carry a lot of things that appeal only to niche markets.

However, if you need something that they actually stock in a local warehouse (e.g. 3D printers, some tools, etc.), then you can get a really good deal and have it at your doorstep within a few days, unlike with AliExpress. Ali has also warehouses now but most of the interesting items are not locally stocked and have to ship from China.


My problem with the search on these places is mainly that it, frankly, sucks. It is trivially gamed by various keyword salads, it is almost impossible to filter the results and even when you somewhat get what you want the ordering is not based on your criteria but which vendor paid for ads (AliExpress) or what the store wants to push (Banggood).

And they’re even worse in non-Chinese languages other than English, and even that requires understanding the curious AliExpress dialect of English, where long-lead LEDs are “long hair LED” and dice for games are “resin deciders”.)

That's because all of it is machine translated from Chinese/English. They translate even reviews, so you get complete gibberish.  I do wish there was a way to permanently disable that BS, switching the language back to English is the first thing I am doing every time I use the website.
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Re: Search Function on Banggood
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2022, 04:25:46 pm »
However, if you need something that they actually stock in a local warehouse (e.g. 3D printers, some tools, etc.), then you can get a really good deal and have it at your doorstep within a few days, unlike with AliExpress. Ali has also warehouses now but most of the interesting items are not locally stocked and have to ship from China.


My problem with the search on these places is mainly that it, frankly, sucks. It is trivially gamed by various keyword salads, it is almost impossible to filter the results and even when you somewhat get what you want the ordering is not based on your criteria but which vendor paid for ads (AliExpress) or what the store wants to push (Banggood).
Many sellers at Aliexpress have their goods at several warehouses, including EU, so you can get them in a few days too if find such seller and select a proper option.
 

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Re: Search Function on Banggood
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2022, 04:27:47 pm »
Yep. I hate how they all fill every item with every vaguely related term, to make it appear in more searches, but making it categorically impossible to perform precise searches. And neither one supports non-fuzzy searches, nor do they support negative keywords (adding a minus sign to exclude things) — or at least if they do, they don’t work right.

(I also remember when Amazon was a single shop, with an outstanding, precise search. Now it’s worse than AliExpress…)
 

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Re: Search Function on Banggood
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2022, 04:33:16 pm »
And they’re even worse in non-Chinese languages other than English, and even that requires understanding the curious AliExpress dialect of English, where long-lead LEDs are “long hair LED” and dice for games are “resin deciders”.)

That's because all of it is machine translated from Chinese/English. They translate even reviews, so you get complete gibberish.  I do wish there was a way to permanently disable that BS, switching the language back to English is the first thing I am doing every time I use the website.
I know. Same here. What’s ultra irritating is that sometimes, you end up in AliExpress cookie hell, where it somehow gets confused about the language, and so defaults to the default language of your location, or of some cookie that got set somehow. Because of it using multiple cookies, redirects, a language preference in your profile,  and the fact that not all of their website supports all languages, it sometimes gets in a state where it becomes unable to save the correct language. That then requires a careful ballet of logging out, deleting cookies, visiting very specific pages (not the regular shopping pages), and selecting the language to get it to stick.

Sometimes all it takes to trigger it is clicking on someone else’s AliExpress link that has a language prefix in the URL.

When it happens spontaneously, it seems to most often end up stuck in either Arabic or Russian — both languages whose writing systems I don’t even know, never mind am capable of reading…
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Re: Search Function on Banggood
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2022, 04:34:40 pm »
Many sellers at Aliexpress have their goods at several warehouses, including EU, so you can get them in a few days too if find such seller and select a proper option.

Yes, correct. But as I have said above - most of the interesting things are not locally stocked. They prestock only stuff that has some sort of mass-appeal and not niche goods, so unless you get lucky, finding e.g. that LCR meter locally stocked is rather unlikely.

Also, I don't know what criteria make a seller eligible to have their goods pre-stocked like that. Possibly a seller has to pay for it or have a certain amount of sales on the platform in the target region.
 

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Re: Search Function on Banggood
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2022, 04:36:08 pm »
I know. Same here. What’s ultra irritating is that sometimes, you end up in AliExpress cookie hell, where it somehow gets confused about the language, and so defaults to the default language of your location, or of some cookie that got set somehow. Because of it using multiple cookies, redirects, a language preference in your profile,  and the fact that not all of their website supports all languages, it sometimes gets in a state where it becomes unable to save the correct language. That then requires a careful ballet of logging out, deleting cookies, visiting very specific pages (not the regular shopping pages), and selecting the language to get it to stick.

Yup! Isn't it fun when one gets half of the content in Russian, comments/reviews in Portuguese and the rest is a mix of English and Chinese.
 
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Re: Search Function on Banggood
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2022, 04:37:39 pm »
I know. Same here. What’s ultra irritating is that sometimes, you end up in AliExpress cookie hell, where it somehow gets confused about the language, and so defaults to the default language of your location, or of some cookie that got set somehow. Because of it using multiple cookies, redirects, a language preference in your profile,  and the fact that not all of their website supports all languages, it sometimes gets in a state where it becomes unable to save the correct language. That then requires a careful ballet of logging out, deleting cookies, visiting very specific pages (not the regular shopping pages), and selecting the language to get it to stick.

Yup! Isn't it fun when one gets half of the content in Russian, comments/reviews in Portuguese and the rest is a mix of English and Chinese.
If only. At least I can read English. When it decides I want it all in Arabic, it’s a whole different level of frustration. But it’s funny you mention Portuguese, because that’s another language it’s gotten stuck in more than once. I wonder what it is in their code that (anecdotally) seems to make it favor defaulting to Arabic, Russian, and Portuguese over other languages.
 

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Re: Search Function on Banggood
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2022, 04:40:24 pm »
Many sellers at Aliexpress have their goods at several warehouses, including EU, so you can get them in a few days too if find such seller and select a proper option.
If they’ll let them ship to you. I constantly run into sellers whose EU warehouses will not ship to Switzerland, so it’s China or nothing. :(
 

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Re: Search Function on Banggood
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2022, 11:24:32 pm »
Interesting at all.
Question came up because I could swear, I´ve saw more/other LCRs when I´ve searched on google and came to the BG site...
Now I´ve searched directly and found "nothing".


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Re: Search Function on Banggood
« Reply #12 on: July 19, 2022, 05:49:27 pm »
Many sellers at Aliexpress have their goods at several warehouses, including EU, so you can get them in a few days too if find such seller and select a proper option.
If they’ll let them ship to you. I constantly run into sellers whose EU warehouses will not ship to Switzerland, so it’s China or nothing. :(

Probably because of customs/regulations as Switzerland is not part of the EU custom union. So more trouble for AliExpress to sort this out if the gadget or gizmo in question doesn't have the right paperwork for Switzerland on file. I don't think it is the seller who decides this but Ali. If it is shipped from China it becomes the seller's problem.
 

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Re: Search Function on Banggood
« Reply #13 on: July 19, 2022, 06:05:27 pm »
i got scammed on aliexpress 2 times...   since then i'm buying stuff only from shops like bangood, tomtop...etc... ignoring the "big aliexpress marketplace".
nice feature of bangood is that they have local warehouses with 5 day delivery. so my shopping looks like: open banggood then "click 1 week delivery" - look what interresting is there and then search for the stuff i really wanted to buy  ::)
 

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Re: Search Function on Banggood
« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2022, 02:51:32 pm »
Many sellers at Aliexpress have their goods at several warehouses, including EU, so you can get them in a few days too if find such seller and select a proper option.
If they’ll let them ship to you. I constantly run into sellers whose EU warehouses will not ship to Switzerland, so it’s China or nothing. :(

Probably because of customs/regulations as Switzerland is not part of the EU custom union. So more trouble for AliExpress to sort this out if the gadget or gizmo in question doesn't have the right paperwork for Switzerland on file. I don't think it is the seller who decides this but Ali. If it is shipped from China it becomes the seller's problem.
It is almost guaranteed to be the seller’s choice. With that said, customs to Switzerland isn’t weird or anything, until a vendor exceeds CHF100K/yr into Switzerland, at which point they must start collecting Swiss VAT and delivering it to the tax man. I doubt many AliExpress vendors make that cut. (And theoretically, that applies to foreign vendors regardless of country, not just EU vendors.)
 

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Re: Search Function on Banggood
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2022, 11:10:26 am »
i got scammed on aliexpress 2 times...   since then i'm buying stuff only from shops like bangood, tomtop...etc... ignoring the "big aliexpress marketplace".
nice feature of bangood is that they have local warehouses with 5 day delivery. so my shopping looks like: open banggood then "click 1 week delivery" - look what interresting is there and then search for the stuff i really wanted to buy  ::)

I do not recomend Banggood. They became realy bad. I am currently stuck with on order that after 15 day is still in processing(not shipped). It is an order fom EU (CZ) and I don't have the option to cancel. The item (3D printer) is on stock , is can be ordered, but don't want to ship (without any explanation). Every time i start a chat with helpdesk they ask me to wait 1-2 days for receiving an answer but nothing happens. They don't want to cancel the order, promise me that the order will be shipped, even offer me a date when will be shipped, but still nothing. Im' stuck in that Banggood fraud ...
 


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