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RoGeorge:

--- Quote from: ataradov on June 14, 2022, 06:40:27 am ---I for one would absolutely love to chat with AI. But all currently publicly accessible chat bots are dog shit.

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Have you tried GPT-3?  It's the star in the last 2 years or so, and that's only public research AI.

I think the turing test has been passed some years ago.  Look how fun it is, a topic not far than this weekend, here on EEVblog:  https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/video-ai-that-generates-code/
ataradov:

--- Quote from: RoGeorge on June 14, 2022, 06:27:15 am ---OK, some journalism hype or a PR stunt might be there, but let's not try to dismiss AI.

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Even if not dismiss, I would give much lower priority to AI. NNs are extremely useful, but don't give them human qualities. They are not AI, they are just dummy tools.


--- Quote from: RoGeorge on June 14, 2022, 06:27:15 am ---It was the same with playing chess.

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It still boils down to raw processing power. NNs helped a lot and non-NN engines are in the dust, but in the end improvements in computer performance in chess are due to improvements in the hardware.
ataradov:

--- Quote from: RoGeorge on June 14, 2022, 06:59:05 am ---Have you tried GPT-3?  It's the star in the last 2 years or so, and that's only public research AI.

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It is not publicly available last time I checked. And they heavily filter results, so all the stuff you see from people that have access could be safely ignored. They select one good result out of 100  garbage results.

DALL-E 2 is another thing that would be interesting to evaluate in the open, but for now all we have is filtered marketing hype.
pcprogrammer:

--- Quote from: ataradov on June 14, 2022, 06:40:27 am ---
--- Quote from: pcprogrammer on June 14, 2022, 06:30:10 am ---What is human intelligence.

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I would say that ability to maintain reasonable conversation is good enough. There are different levels of intelligence between humas, for sure. But there is still plenty of common ground.

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I agree to disagree. For me it is also about understanding and the ability to use gained information properly. It all depends on the level of intelligence of whom you are having the conversation with. To generalize a person with an average IQ (100) might have a reasonable conversation with someone a little above or below but not with another who is way higher or lower. And then there is also language. A very intelligent person that only speaks for instance Farsi won't be able to have a good conversation with an other person that only speaks English, but still might understand each other.

But as with all human knowledge it is based on human perception and interpretation, so what is the real thing? For me nature is tangible and therefore real, but again that is my perception. And like you wrote before that is leaping into philosophy :)
ataradov:

--- Quote from: pcprogrammer on June 14, 2022, 08:00:03 am ---For me it is also about understanding and the ability to use gained information properly. It all depends on the level of intelligence of whom you are having the conversation with.

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For sure. Bit I'm not talking about maintaining a conversation with me personally (although in a long run it should be able to do that to be useful). I'm fine with finding the dumbest person out there and having it chat with the AI. All I need is unedited logs. If in the end I can't tell which one is AI, it is all good. This is essentially a Turing test, which  some people try to make obsolete, but I still think that it is a valid first test.

Also, this engineer was suspended. Based on his previous statements he seems to be a bit out there. So, I don't think it is a marketing campaign, just one loony going rouge.

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