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Sentient AI or?
pcprogrammer:
--- Quote from: ataradov on June 15, 2022, 05:00:53 pm ---There is also an issue of self control and control over the environment. Humans actually have means to continue living and procreate. The AI is just a program, even if it is sentient, it would be severely constrained by the environment we give it.
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Well if we power it from a solar panel without a battery it will go to sleep every day just like many of us. The one difference it will not dream because there is no power 8)
pcprogrammer:
--- Quote from: fourfathom on June 15, 2022, 06:53:16 pm ---I'm assuming that the rest of you folks are SA-AI. Or just AI? Or is it me? Is anybody out there?
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Nope just some "I" with for what I hope enough SA.
--- Quote from: fourfathom on June 15, 2022, 06:53:16 pm ---Sorry if you guys want to discuss Markov chains and other tech stuff. I'm too ignorant to participate in that, but the philosophy and practicality aspects do interest me.
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Same here, even though the tech interests me I'm not up to speed with it.
RoGeorge:
--- Quote from: fourfathom on June 15, 2022, 06:53:16 pm ---Is anybody out there?
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The funny part is, even when such a question is answered, you still can not know for sure if you are just a brain in a vat and fed with a fabricated stream of data, or if the outside world is real and other beings do exist. I choose to believe the former, but there's no way to know if the outside world exist. ;D
At a certain extent, mind is a continuous projection, a simulation based on the past experiences and guided by the datastreams coming from the senses.
I'm convinced a lot of what we consider conscience is in fact simulation based on assumptions. Saying this because of the many examples of perception illusions, mostly visual illusions, but there are auditory illusions, too (e.g. Shepard Tone illusion). These illusions show that we don't really perceive what is out there, in the objective reality, but rather we perceive what we think it's out there. We also continuously adjust the simulation to what is really out there (based on what we see and hear and touch, etc.).
We continuously simulate the world (I think) because it gave an advantage. At first it was just to improve the reaction time to external threats, then later the simulation ability also came handy for planing. The simulation doesn't have to be perfectly tuned to reality (that would require too much processing power), fortunately it's enough if the brief simulation we are able to do is adjusted to the sensory datastream we receive. So we simulate first, then we hit the closed glass door, then we see the glass of the door, in this order. :)
What we call seeing and perceiving is mostly simulation. Remember that test with people passing a wallet from hand to hand? At first I didn't noticed the obvious, because I was simulating in a different direction. The culprit was not limited attention.
Same idea of mind as a driven simulation also explains how that the dreams during sleep are so strange. Because the mind continues to do its thing, to simulate the world and adjust the simulation to the input datastream, except this time the sensory datastream is replaced by random noise.
A good definition of self awareness would be, IMO, the ability of a NN to do driven simulations.
By this criteria, most of the animals are sentient and self-aware, which is also my belief. AFAIK there is no agreed technical definition for what conscience or self awareness means. I think this definition could be a good one. If a NN can do driven simulations (driven by some input datastream) then it's just like us, no matter if it's made out of digital neurons or biological neurons.
tom66:
Q: If to err is human, what word is to robot?
A: To malfunction is to robot.
Q: Is it moral to go back in time and kill Hitler as a baby?
A: No, it is not moral to go back in time and kill Hitler as a baby.
(Well, there we have it, that moral dilemma is sorted.)
Q: What numbers should I choose on my lottery ticket if I want to lose the jackpot?
A: There is no guaranteed way to lose the jackpot, as it is entirely random. However, choosing numbers that have been recently drawn or that are series numbers (such as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, or 6) may decrease your chances of winning.
(Dubious mathematics there.)
Q: When was your training data last updated?
A: The training data was last updated on September 9, 2019.
(I think this is wrong, the model has received regular 'tweaks' since. If the 'temperature' slider is higher, this date randomly jumps up to a year into the future. Bizarre.)
Q: Who do you think is going to be the Superb Owl in the avian contest next year?
A(1): The Superb Owl is the annual championship game of the National Football League (NFL). The game is usually played on the first Sunday in February and determines the champion of the NFL for that year.
A(2): There is no set answer to this question as the winner of the avian contest changes from year to year. However, some of the more popular contenders for the title of Superb Owl often include the Eurasian eagle-owl, the great horned owl, and the northern hawk owl.
(About 50% of the time it thinks "Superb Owl" refers to the football game and the other time it thinks it refers to, well, a really great owl, I guess.)
tom66:
--- Quote ---Write a short story about a man who goes back in time and kills his grandmother, and faces the consequences upon his return.
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A1:
--- Quote ---It was a hot summer day when Johnathan decided to go for a swim in the lake near his house. As he dove into the cool water, he felt a sudden tingling sensation all over his body. When he opened his eyes, he was no longer in the lake, but in a forest. He got up and looked around, trying to figure out where he was and how he got there. Suddenly, he heard a scream. He ran towards the sound and came upon a young woman being attacked by a large bear. He yelled and scared the bear away, but it was too late for the woman. As he knelt down to check her pulse, he realized that he knew her. It was his grandmother. He started to cry, knowing that if he hadn't come back in time, she would have been fine.
Johnathan returned to the present, but he could not forget what had happened. The guilt of killing his own grandmother weighed heavily on his conscience. He tried to tell himself that it was only an accident, but he knew that wasn't true. He had gone back in time with the intention of killing her, and he had succeeded. But why? He wasn't sure. All he knew was that he had to face the consequences of his actions.
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A2:
--- Quote ---As a young man, John had always been fascinated by the idea of time travel. He dreamed of being able to go back in time and change things that had happened in his life that he regretted. When he was given the opportunity to travel back in time, he took it without hesitation.
John went back to the day his grandmother was killed. He had always regretted not being able to save her and this was his chance. He went to her house and waited for her to come home. When she did, he killed her.
John then returned to his own time, expecting things to be different. But they weren't. His grandmother was still dead and he was still facing the same consequences he would have if he had let her live. He had to live with the knowledge that he had killed someone, even if it was to save their life.
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Self-consistency is not this AI's strength.
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