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shocked on ebay: seller blocked me claiming PayPal is fraudulent and eBay is not
james_s:
Ebay strictly forbids doing deals outside of their system. If someone tried to get me to do this I would also assume they're trying to scam me and would refuse to deal with them. There are lots of scammers out there.
DiTBho:
--- Quote from: james_s on November 28, 2022, 10:18:12 pm ---Ebay strictly forbids doing deals outside of their system. If someone tried to get me to do this I would also assume they're trying to scam me and would refuse to deal with them. There are lots of scammers out there.
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to me it seems a crazy reaction!
eBay has the crazy rule you cannot give someone you phone-number to have a talk/clarification/more pics/details, and to do so, you have to pass you phone-number through a pic, which is just crazy sinc they monitor pics, and if they catch you ... your account will be banned.
I bought a monocoque carbon bicycle frame (90ish) for 800 euro on eBay, very expensive considering I had to import it, the seller refused to have a talk on Whatsup/Skype, and as result ... I trusted eBay and got nothing but a cracked carbon frame, which I had to return to the seller wasting my time and money.
So, I could say the same: there are lots of scammers-sellers out there on eBay, too!
Stray Electron:
--- Quote from: jpanhalt on November 28, 2022, 02:24:56 pm ---Re: eBay and PayPal
They began together and are still joined at the hip, so to speak. Earlier this year, PayPal insisted on a mobile smart phone for 2FA, which I don't have and don't intend to buy just for PayPal.
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What is 2FA? I have a mobile phone and it's not connected to E-bay or PayPal (and NEVER will be!). But less than five minutes ago I made a BIN purchase from Ebay and paid for it will PP and I didn't have any trouble with the transaction. I make from 2 to about 5 purchases per week on E-bay and pay for all of them with PP and I haven't had any problems doing so and I've been doing that since PP began.
james_s:
--- Quote from: DiTBho on November 29, 2022, 02:18:19 am ---to me it seems a crazy reaction!
eBay has the crazy rule you cannot give someone you phone-number to have a talk/clarification/more pics/details, and to do so, you have to pass you phone-number through a pic, which is just crazy sinc they monitor pics, and if they catch you ... your account will be banned.
I bought a monocoque carbon bicycle frame (90ish) for 800 euro on eBay, very expensive considering I had to import it, the seller refused to have a talk on Whatsup/Skype, and as result ... I trusted eBay and got nothing but a cracked carbon frame, which I had to return to the seller wasting my time and money.
So, I could say the same: there are lots of scammers-sellers out there on eBay, too!
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It's obvious why they do that, they take a cut of the transaction so they don't want people using their service for free and bypassing the cut they take. I don't like ebay either but doing that could arguably be called theft of services.
I'm not sure what trusting ebay has to do with receiving a damaged bicycle. If you had bypassed ebay you might have been left holding the bag.
Someone:
--- Quote from: Stray Electron on November 29, 2022, 02:59:45 am ---
--- Quote from: jpanhalt on November 28, 2022, 02:24:56 pm ---Re: eBay and PayPal
They began together and are still joined at the hip, so to speak. Earlier this year, PayPal insisted on a mobile smart phone for 2FA, which I don't have and don't intend to buy just for PayPal.
--- End quote ---
What is 2FA? I have a mobile phone and it's not connected to E-bay or PayPal (and NEVER will be!). But less than five minutes ago I made a BIN purchase from Ebay and paid for it will PP and I didn't have any trouble with the transaction. I make from 2 to about 5 purchases per week on E-bay and pay for all of them with PP and I haven't had any problems doing so and I've been doing that since PP began.
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You'll start hearing 2FA (two factor authentication) a lot more. PayPal has always had different classes/thresholds/types of accounts behind the scenes so you may be in a low risk group/country/funding and not be required to use it. Its not always necessary to associate 2FA with a phone number or app, some accounts (including some PayPal accounts) can use 3rd party code generators:
https://authy.com/guides/paypal/
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