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| Microdoser:
--- Quote from: SiliconWizard on July 11, 2023, 10:05:20 pm ---If the product is not too complex, of course you can. But if you are alone *and* are able to complete the product design and manufacturing all by yourself, chances are that you won't be as good with the marketing side of things, and a product is not worth much if you can't sell it. Just a thought. --- End quote --- Indeed, although the original question was whether a single person could make a gadget. I completely agree that the person that could make it, probably couldn't sell it successfully. |
| abeyer:
--- Quote from: Microdoser on July 11, 2023, 10:21:18 pm ---Indeed, although the original question was whether a single person could make a gadget. I completely agree that the person that could make it, probably couldn't sell it successfully. --- End quote --- 100% this -- making is the "easy" part, the need to make a profitable (or even sustainable) business out of it moves everything up to hard mode. That's true even more so if you are trying to make a business of competing with cheap stuff where your differentiation is quality. People have shown that no matter how much they "prefer" quality, statistically they will buy whatever is the cheapest option that isn't complete garbage. |
| Bud:
Making will be a very slow process, as you need to learn several design tools and manufacturing processes. As well as deal with finance and logistics. Not even talking about marketing, sales and after sales support. |
| nctnico:
--- Quote from: CatalinaWOW on July 11, 2023, 06:11:26 pm ---There is no simple answer to this. At one level the answer is no. No individual will be able to manufacture lamps, batteries and the other components of even a relatively simple device like a bike light. On the other hand I have no doubt that an individual can design and build a bike lite that is superior by many metrics to most of not all such devices on the market. But it will require quite some time, and intense learning in areas new to the individual. And I unless the individual is unusually well off financially will be unable to develop tooling and other necessities to make the result price competitive. --- End quote --- The topic is about design, not manufacturing ;D IMHO it is very possible to design a bike light (mechanics + electronics) as these are relatively simple devices and contrary to other suggestions you don't want to make it water tight. With manufacturing in Asia getting the costs low enough is no problem. However, design and manufacturing efforts are meaningless without the ability to actually sell the product (as others already noted as well). And where it comes to bike lights: don't use the ones on batteries as batteries just suck. Get a Shimano hub for your front wheel with an integrated alternator and run the lights from there. It simply works always. |
| CatalinaWOW:
--- Quote from: nctnico on July 11, 2023, 10:37:06 pm --- --- Quote from: CatalinaWOW on July 11, 2023, 06:11:26 pm ---There is no simple answer to this. At one level the answer is no. No individual will be able to manufacture lamps, batteries and the other components of even a relatively simple device like a bike light. On the other hand I have no doubt that an individual can design and build a bike lite that is superior by many metrics to most of not all such devices on the market. But it will require quite some time, and intense learning in areas new to the individual. And I unless the individual is unusually well off financially will be unable to develop tooling and other necessities to make the result price competitive. --- End quote --- The topic is about design, not manufacturing ;D IMHO it is very possible to design a bike light (mechanics + electronics) as these are relatively simple devices and contrary to other suggestions you don't want to make it water tight. With manufacturing in Asia getting the costs low enough is no problem. However, design and manufacturing efforts are meaningless without the ability to actually sell the product (as others already noted as well). And where it comes to bike lights: don't use the ones on batteries as batteries just suck. Get a Shimano hub for your front wheel with an integrated alternator and run the lights from there. It simply works always. --- End quote --- English is a wonderful language which allows us to read the same things very differently. I would also submit that design and manufacturing are intimately related, even if you don't physically participate in the build. A useful knowledge of the manufacturing process capabilities and characteristics is necessary to do a proper design. As I said, we agree that it is possible for a single individual to do a design of bike light level of complexity. Your opinions on a proper bike light design differ from others. That is the beauty of a market. Successful sales indicate correct decisions, and also note that different approaches can succeed. You just won't buy the ones that don't suit your fancy. |
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