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Xena E:

--- Quote from: Simon on June 12, 2023, 05:28:16 am ---
--- Quote from: Xena E on June 11, 2023, 10:28:31 pm ---With respect to those who have taken the time to respond to this thread I apologise for my comments, but this is the biggest load of bullshit I've read in a while.

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Which bit is bullshit? while Farringdon does seem to bring some unique, erm, "perspectives" to the forum I have been told to shut up in the past, the attitude was see no evil, hear no evil speak no evil. And the stuff was literally life support.

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It is bullshit because the military do not award design contracts like this without going through what they're getting with a fine tooth comb. Also if it were true, the 'friend' and or "Faringdon" is now in contravention of the official secrets act and will be visited shortly by a very nice man from MI5, (who will call himself "Tom Leonard"), my last company had to do background checks on all its employees as there are ongoing contracts of supply with the admiralty.

That's the see evil part.

If these power supplies are just generic then the MOD will just buy them based on suitability from the same suppliers you or I could, if then they are in some way critical then they will do their own tests to   confirm their suitability. If they are for life critical applications  they won't just buy them without provenance  from some shithead in a company "down the road". Normally I find it best to scroll away but this guy needs help.

Faringdon? Perhaps Walter Mitty would be a better handle.

Now, I'll shut up as suggested.

Regards.

Simon:
What makes you so sure and no one has specified which countries military we are talking about. If you want to take the UK it's no different to any other contracting out. It also depends on the nature of the equipment. but largely take a commercial item and put it into a military application and it just trebles in value. Electronics these days has come so far that there is not much between military requirements and what automotive use. once you understand that a specification is not about the point a part will just break at or stop working but it is as far as the manufacturer is willing to test you realize that it's not as super duper as "uh, made for da military". Testing to -40C is a lot cheaper than testing to -55C which is not as cold as what is often required, if you take specs so literally you won't actually be able to design anything unless you buy a huge batch of everything down to the last resistor and test a few, then know what you have is good. Tendering to the military is as competitive as any commercial tendering. There will also be long chains of supply, I remember picking up the phone to a random call and finding myself briefly involved in a querry over mercury content in the equipment. We were buying the equipment from a supplier, not making it and the customer may have been supplying it to another sourcing contractor.

The poor bastard that has to use the kit is not the one several levels up that paid for it and that deals with the suppliers, so unless it's really a problem, nothing happens.

The cost of military gear in my opinion is partly because the money is there and it is such a huge beast that controlling it down to that £20 lightbulb that was actually worth 20p is hard.

AVGresponding:

--- Quote from: Xena E on June 12, 2023, 11:14:19 am ---
--- Quote from: Simon on June 12, 2023, 05:28:16 am ---
--- Quote from: Xena E on June 11, 2023, 10:28:31 pm ---With respect to those who have taken the time to respond to this thread I apologise for my comments, but this is the biggest load of bullshit I've read in a while.

--- End quote ---

Which bit is bullshit? while Farringdon does seem to bring some unique, erm, "perspectives" to the forum I have been told to shut up in the past, the attitude was see no evil, hear no evil speak no evil. And the stuff was literally life support.

--- End quote ---
It is bullshit because the military do not award design contracts like this without going through what they're getting with a fine tooth comb. Also if it were true, the 'friend' and or "Faringdon" is now in contravention of the official secrets act and will be visited shortly by a very nice man from MI5, (who will call himself "Tom Leonard"), my last company had to do background checks on all its employees as there are ongoing contracts of supply with the admiralty.

That's the see evil part.

If these power supplies are just generic then the MOD will just buy them based on suitability from the same suppliers you or I could, if then they are in some way critical then they will do their own tests to   confirm their suitability. If they are for life critical applications  they won't just buy them without provenance  from some shithead in a company "down the road". Normally I find it best to scroll away but this guy needs help.

Faringdon? Perhaps Walter Mitty would be a better handle.

Now, I'll shut up as suggested.

Regards.

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In an ideal world you might be correct. However we do not live in such a place, and these kinds of things do happen, in the UK military and in that of other countries.

Please note however that I am not defending the OP in any way; I find them abrasive and borderline offensive, and the "asking for a friend" aspect of this thread is ridiculously transparent.

Simon:

--- Quote from: AVGresponding on June 12, 2023, 12:31:06 pm ---
In an ideal world you might be correct. However we do not live in such a place, and these kinds of things do happen, in the UK military and in that of other countries.

Please note however that I am not defending the OP in any way; I find them abrasive and borderline offensive, and the "asking for a friend" aspect of this thread is ridiculously transparent.

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coppercone2:
they do have a fine tooth comb, you know what it combs, the cost spread sheet

your post must have come through the looking glass, where congress is not involved with the MIC.

We need to confirm, what color is the sky on your earth? I suspect its silver green.

The relationship here is something like the gardeners (congress equipped with chain saws) vs those vines from Jumanji (the military).

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