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Solar farm wrecked by giant hail!

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tautech:

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--- Quote from: RJHayward on July 03, 2023, 10:28:20 pm ---   Tom66 has it right, you have to consider that conventional coal fired plants have the distribution issues where individual pockets of damage happen, regularly, such as tree falling on overhead wires...so it could end up being a wash as to which major system is at the most risk.
Seems like the distribution infrastructure dominates the economics, with the generation plant being a close second.
   That, however, still means that HAIL damage is a serious concern.

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Only because authorities are too gutless to insist any tree that can reach/compromise critical power infrastructure should have a death warrant out on it.

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Not in Germany :D At least not 20 years back.
I vividly remember a troop of forest workers cutting a lane through a small piece of forest where our overhead line went through. That line was only 220 volts, so not much was actually cut, a falling tree would still have been able to knock it down i think, but anything in danger to actually touch the line was cut.
This was on our land, and we had to pay for that every couple of years.

By now the line has been buried though, as have been almost all power lines in my area.

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Transmission lines through private land is a double edged sword in that if it only supplies the landowner then only their supply is at risk however if the infrastructure goes on to supply others then it must be protected, be it on private or public land.

Here in NZ the tree huggers kick up such a fuss over any tree maintenance however where we are in a rural location cooking, eating and living by candlelight is from another long past century !

Some just can't understand how lives have been so dramatically improved by the provision of power so to not need to cut vast tracts of trees for firewood and cooking so the few that endanger power infrastructure would be of no loss to society when in fact their loss would be of more value to humanity.

NiHaoMike:

--- Quote from: tautech on July 05, 2023, 07:46:01 am ---Here in NZ the tree huggers kick up such a fuss over any tree maintenance however where we are in a rural location cooking, eating and living by candlelight is from another long past century !

Some just can't understand how lives have been so dramatically improved by the provision of power so to not need to cut vast tracts of trees for firewood and cooking so the few that endanger power infrastructure would be of no loss to society when in fact their loss would be of more value to humanity.

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They should rally against factory farming contributing to deforestation in Brazil.

schmitt trigger:
One of engineering salient traits is that after a failure, it investigates the root causes, analyzes the failure mechanisms, designs the appropriate corrective actions, test them, incorporate them into the “lessons learned” and move on with life.

A company I worked for in the late 90s had a gigantic “archive of mistakes” which was amazing to read. Many of the issues were obvious, but again, hindsight is always 20/20.

langwadt:

--- Quote from: schmitt trigger on July 05, 2023, 01:52:37 pm ---One of engineering salient traits is that after a failure, it investigates the root causes, analyzes the failure mechanisms, designs the appropriate corrective actions, test them, incorporate them into the “lessons learned” and move on with life.

A company I worked for in the late 90s had a gigantic “archive of mistakes” which was amazing to read. Many of the issues were obvious, but again, hindsight is always 20/20.

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experience is proportional to the price of broken gear

SiliconWizard:
Yes, the problem is when:
- we keep repeating mistakes that were either obvious from the get-go with SoA knowledge;
- we keep repeating mistakes that we already made before;
- we don't investigate the root causes and move on ("shit happens").

While I admit that the first one can happen occasionally even with the best intentions, the two others are unfortunately too frequent and not really defendable.

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